If you are 5'10" stay away from anything smaller than their 18. I have an 18 and it is pretty much perfect with a 65mm stem. Depending on the height you like your bars, you may run a bunch of spacers and a 1.5 or higher rise bar. The headtube is short on all the sizes.
On-one 456 and summer season riders help
I'm looking to get either a on-one 456 or the summer season but wanted to hear what sizes people are riding, how tall you are and any opinions on what I should get and on the bikes themselves.
I'm 5'10 fairly average when it comes to arm/leg length. Like to ride aggressive. I live in S. California(where everything is steep) so I need something I can make it to the top with without having a heart attack. Thanks
I'm 5'10 fairly average when it comes to arm/leg length. Like to ride aggressive. I live in S. California(where everything is steep) so I need something I can make it to the top with without having a heart attack. Thanks
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leggatt, thanks for the reply. I was thinking 18" at first but then went back to the idea that a 16" will be more maneuverable in tight spots and jumps with a slightly shorter wheelbase. So you're about the same height? Do you feel that the 16" would be too cramped on climbs?
What is your inseam?
I have slightly long legs for my height, my inseam is 35" and height 6'1". I went for the 18" 456 Ti (like the summer season) and it is a perfect fit. The seatpost extension on these frames is designed to be long. If you look at the top tube length vs seat tube length you can see that the seat tube is shorter than other frames with similar top tube lengths.
My guess is that you should get the 16". When Brandt (the designer) recommends frame sizes to others here on MTBR he seems to recommend the smaller sized frame.
I have slightly long legs for my height, my inseam is 35" and height 6'1". I went for the 18" 456 Ti (like the summer season) and it is a perfect fit. The seatpost extension on these frames is designed to be long. If you look at the top tube length vs seat tube length you can see that the seat tube is shorter than other frames with similar top tube lengths.
My guess is that you should get the 16". When Brandt (the designer) recommends frame sizes to others here on MTBR he seems to recommend the smaller sized frame.
Well, there is no way I would go with a 16. The top tube would feel short and I would end up running a 90mm stem as climbing would not be very comfortable. I am using a 140mm fork and the 18 is spot on.
5'7" 31" inseam. I'm riding a 16" 456 with a 60mm stem and it's a great fit. If I had a longer inseam, I'd probably try the 18" with a 50mm stem.
Everyone is different. What I find when talking to people is that those who have been biking a long time, like in the '90s, they like a more old school geometry with a longer stem, etc.
Even on my 18" with a 24" TT I find that the reach with a 45mm stem is still a little too long. It makes it hard to manual the front wheel. The flip side of the long top tube is that steep climbs are no problem.
Even on my 18" with a 24" TT I find that the reach with a 45mm stem is still a little too long. It makes it hard to manual the front wheel. The flip side of the long top tube is that steep climbs are no problem.
Inseam is about 31.5" give or take using the [email protected] method. So I'm leaning toward the 16" even though I want it to be able to climb, I also want to flick it around when I'm going fast. I don't know, I'm indecisive as hell on this, thanks for all of the replys though, I appreciate it.presslab said:What is your inseam?
I have slightly long legs for my height, my inseam is 35" and height 6'1". I went for the 18" 456 Ti (like the summer season) and it is a perfect fit. The seatpost extension on these frames is designed to be long. If you look at the top tube length vs seat tube length you can see that the seat tube is shorter than other frames with similar top tube lengths.
My guess is that you should get the 16". When Brandt (the designer) recommends frame sizes to others here on MTBR he seems to recommend the smaller sized frame.
drew, do you want the bike to fit similar to your current bike?drew2388 said:Inseam is about 31.5" give or take using the [email protected] method. So I'm leaning toward the 16" even though I want it to be able to climb, I also want to flick it around when I'm going fast. I don't know, I'm indecisive as hell on this, thanks for all of the replys though, I appreciate it.
We have added the stack (BB to top of head tube vertically) and reach (BB to top of head tube horizontally) numbers to our geometry charts to make it easier to compare fit.
You could ride either the 16" (medium) or 18" (large) with the appropriate stem length.
I am just over 6' and a 34+" inseam and like the 18" frames. My riding style is more trail and ride over things than trail and jump over/off of things.
Same here, but my legs are a bit shorter. I think you would find a 16 too small.amishscum said:5'7" 31" inseam. I'm riding a 16" 456 with a 60mm stem and it's a great fit. If I had a longer inseam, I'd probably try the 18" with a 50mm stem.
6.1 and long legs....ride a 456 summer season and it fits perfect...couldn`t be any better...
What size?accutrax said:6.1 and long legs....ride a 456 summer season and it fits perfect...couldn`t be any better...
That's me. I'm 5' 10" and ride an 18" 456. I think the stem I'm running on that bike right now is around 105mm, and that's keeping it shorter than what I use on my XC bikes. I personally wouldn't consider getting anything smaller than the 18" , but everyone has their own preferences.presslab said:Everyone is different. What I find when talking to people is that those who have been biking a long time, like in the '90s, they like a more old school geometry with a longer stem, etc.
ahhh..sorry.....ride an 18 summer season, first production run ..raw..without iscgdrew2388 said:What size?
I am about 6' and have a 32/33" inseam. Check out my 16" SS and 18" regular here; http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=673632
If youre a djer and dher at heart go with 16". If youre an epic all day rider that doesnt shy away from anything go 18". If I would have to pic ONE, I may pic the 16". My two cents.
If youre a djer and dher at heart go with 16". If youre an epic all day rider that doesnt shy away from anything go 18". If I would have to pic ONE, I may pic the 16". My two cents.
5'10" - 16" SS + 16" Inbred + 16" 456 = perfect :thumbsup:
Shiggy, is it true there are going to be new colors on the 456's soon and that they will have a replacable dropout?shiggy said:drew, do you want the bike to fit similar to your current bike?
We have added the stack (BB to top of head tube vertically) and reach (BB to top of head tube horizontally) numbers to our geometry charts to make it easier to compare fit.
You could ride either the 16" (medium) or 18" (large) with the appropriate stem length.
I am just over 6' and a 34+" inseam and like the 18" frames. My riding style is more trail and ride over things than trail and jump over/off of things.
So did you ever get one drew? If so what size? I'm in the same boat (although looking more at the Pig). I'm 5'10" or a bit under and trying to decide between the 16 or 18 (well maybe the 17 and 18 for the Pig). The problem I'm having is I don't have a lot of previous bikes to compare or to know what I like. My current DB Mission is a 19" (24" ETT, ~16.75 reach) with a 70mm stem and it's ok but a little less stretched out mighnt be nice. Looking at the On-One 16" the reach is 16.26 and I'd like a shorter stem. For the Blue Pig in 16" reach is 15.35 which seems pretty small (the 18" was around 16" reach and I couldn't find reach for 17" frame). It's so tough to choose when you can't try one out!
Actually I had to put the whole build on hold because I tore a ligiment in my ankle.So the bills from that, paired with the fact that even if I built it I can't do anything but stare at it and be bummed forced me to put it on hold. It's almost healed enough to move around without being wraped up but still a little time.So did you ever get one drew? If so what size? I'm in the same boat (although looking more at the Pig). I'm 5'10" or a bit under and trying to decide between the 16 or 18 (well maybe the 17 and 18 for the Pig). The problem I'm having is I don't have a lot of previous bikes to compare or to know what I like. My current DB Mission is a 19" (24" ETT, ~16.75 reach) with a 70mm stem and it's ok but a little less stretched out mighnt be nice. Looking at the On-One 16" the reach is 16.26 and I'd like a shorter stem. For the Blue Pig in 16" reach is 15.35 which seems pretty small (the 18" was around 16" reach and I couldn't find reach for 17" frame). It's so tough to choose when you can't try one out!
With that said I am about to start the quest again and am probably going to go with the pig-x w/ swap-outs now that they are in stock. Not sure on size still but was leaning toward the 16in or maybe the 17in.There is not a very big difference between the two. I think the 18in is too big for what I want. The new summer seasons are almost out too but I like the idea of the removable cable guides,swap outs (I'm in So. California with lots of rocks) and also the 30.9 seat tube gives more option for dropper posts. Now I just have to decide which size I want and you're right, it would be alot easier if I could sit on one to get a feel. Sorry I'm no help, if I make a decision before you I'll let you know what i get.
6'1" short legs but like a short cockpit so 70mm stem + inline post seat fully forward with a standard 16" 456, smaller frame makes it very controllable and the loads of post out makes it nice and comfy to nearly don't miss the FS when riding it.
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