[Grinchy8]

I ride with my kids. A 24”, two 26”, and a 27.5/29”+ mullet. A mix of tubes and tubeless.
Here’s what we’ve got for an onbike rescue kit. What additional items should we consider?

Tools
Multi tool with all the fasteners on the bikes accounted for
Tire levers
Which Include chain master link pliers and a spare master link
Presta valve tool w an extra presta valve inside
Some zip tires

tubeless rescue
Tubeless needle and bacon
Gorilla tape
Inflator
Two co2

tube rescue
S-tubo 29” tubolight
Mini pump
Park stick and seal patches
A length of extra tube

I wouldn’t mind a small 60ml of sealant, but I’m out of space in the bag.

605 g seems excessive.
Bag is 120g. Rest is tools.

 

[BansheeRune]

Might be able to stash a small sealant up under your seat, between the rails. Otherwise, you are reasonably covered.
Largest issue on the trail is mostly tire related.

 

[BansheeRune]

Forgot to mention a nice pump. Cause sometimes we air down some for traction and flotation. Since that is common, a pump is a good option vs. squandering a CO2. My CO2 uses the common BB gun type cylinders that are dime a dozen by comparison to the proprietary jobbies that are kinda expensive.

 

[Grinchy8]

Forgot to mention a nice pump. Cause sometimes we air down some for traction and flotation. Since that is common, a pump is a good option vs. squandering a CO2. My CO2 uses the common BB gun type cylinders that are dime a dozen by comparison to the proprietary jobbies that are kinda expensive.

I do have a much larger Blackburn bottle cage mount kind of pump, hadn’t thought about using it for off road style inflation after a purposeful deflation. Interesting.

 

[phantoj]

Little Crescent wrench if the kid's bikes are cheaper ones. Especially if they have nutted axles.

 

[Grinchy8]

Little Crescent wrench if the kid's bikes are cheaper ones. Especially if they have nutted axles.

Good point! I forgot there was a solid axle on that 24" bike in the front. I have the hub sitting here to put a QR in, sounds like a good Sunday project.

 

[drjos]

I ride with my kids. A 24”, two 26”, and a 27.5/29”+ mullet. A mix of tubes and tubeless.
Here’s what we’ve got for an onbike rescue kit. What additional items should we consider?

Tools
Multi tool with all the fasteners on the bikes accounted for
Tire levers
Which Include chain master link pliers and a spare master link
Presta valve tool w an extra presta valve inside
Some zip tires

tubeless rescue
Tubeless needle and bacon
Gorilla tape
Inflator
Two co2

tube rescue
S-tubo 29” tubolight
Mini pump
Park stick and seal patches
A length of extra tube


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I wouldn’t mind a small 60ml of sealant, but I’m out of space in the bag.

605 g seems excessive.
Bag is 120g. Rest is tools.

That looks like a really good kit. I run similar but put the pump and the sealant along with mech hangers and spare cable in my hydration pack. My on-bike kit adds up to about 490 grams.

OneUp EDC light in stem.
Custom 3d printed bar end plugs holding DynaPlugs.
I added a OneUp chain tool to a Clever Flatout lever/tool + quick links
Instant towel, battery for AXS, money, and a tire boot.
Gloves are handy and I pack them to help prevent tools rattling.
Gorilla tape on the CO2 and zip ties in the crank spindle.

The fast access to the multitool and plugs is great.

I love the Silca Mattone bag. Can really crank down the BOA so it does not rattle and its pretty water resistant.

 

[slapheadmofo]

Stick on patches tend to not work well very well.

Unless all your bikes have the same number of gears out back, you may need more quick links.

You could trade in all the CO2 stuff plus that minipump and carry something like a Mountain Morph pump instead.

 

[Grinchy8]

Good point. I"ve never been much of a CO2 fan, but I had the head from 2003 or something and bought a five pack of carts earlier in the year. The only thing that tiny air pump has going for it is package size, it fits in the bag. The pump, head, and two carts weight 250g. Trusty much larger blackburn mammoth is 169g. Unfortunately it doesn't fit in the bag.

The geared bikes are all on 10 speed chains, although not all are 10 speed. Just makes it simpler. But a second link doesn't take space or weight for sure.

 

[Cleared2land]

I'm a pump only guy. CO2 got culled a long time ago. What's the point unless racing?

 

[slapheadmofo]

I'm a pump only guy. CO2 got culled a long time ago. What's the point unless racing?

To negate any claimed weight savings from tubeless tires?
I'm assuming that most buy them specifically to get tubeless tires to seat, other than that, I can't think of any purpose for them outside racing.

Speaking of things that serve pretty much no purpose outside of racing, worrying about handful of grams is right up there, particularly when you're spreading them across what, 5 bikes?
Put the scale away and strap a decent pump to one of those bikes. It'll be fine.

 

[Grinchy8]

sure, grams are only useful for context. Not a means to an end but a way to compare and contrast.
I need to see how the large pump bracket fairs with jumps. it'll probably be fine.
Since my bike always goes all this stuff is on my bike.

I've been ruminating that maybe this whole kit is pretty much unnecessary. We've had zero issues in six months. Perhaps the real solution is obsessive maintenance. But I know the instant I don't take a way to inflate, that'll there will be a flat. Because reasons. So the tiny pump was a reaction to probably never needing it. It does get there, just in time.

 

[OldMike]

I wanted the speed of [email protected] but not having used it I was afraid I'd get stuck after botching it somehow (refilling tire).
Answer fro me was this. It's both CO2 and a pump and only 6" long..

 

[Cleared2land]

You might need a bit more pump for a mountain bike tire. I think that's bit more suited for a roadie tire.

 

[slapheadmofo]

You might need a bit more pump for a mountain bike tire. I think that's bit more suited for a roadie tire.

At least a roadie that wants to spend 20 minutes pumping up their tire.

 

[J.B. Weld]

I'm a pump only guy. CO2 got culled a long time ago. What's the point unless racing?

They can cut a 10 minute flat change down to just a few minutes. No real but deal but it can be slightly annoying watching someone struggle with a tiny pump and a 2.6" tire while refusing the C02 I'm offering for one reason or another. I just want to get on with it.

 

[OldMike]

You might need a bit more pump for a mountain bike tire. I think that's bit more suited for a roadie tire.

The Idea is the CO2 fills the tire (barring error) with the pump as a backup. If I felt the CO2 wouldn't work, I'd go with a conventional pump.

 

[OldMike]

I'm a pump only guy. CO2 got culled a long time ago. What's the point unless racing?

Convenience (which is equal to time X laziness)

 

[slapheadmofo]

They can cut a 10 minute flat change down to just a few minutes. No real but deal but it can be slightly annoying watching someone struggle with a tiny pump and a 2.6" tire while refusing the C02 I'm offering for one reason or another. I just want to get on with it.

Tiny pumps are useless.

I'm willing to bet most people with carrying CO2 are also running tubeless.
I can pretty much guarantee that I'll be up and running with a tubes and a decent pump faster than someone who has to repair and reinflate a tubeless set-up.

 

[J.B. Weld]

Tiny pumps are useless.

I'm willing to bet most people with carrying CO2 are also running tubeless.
I can pretty much guarantee that I'll be up and running with a tubes and a decent pump faster than someone who has to repair and reinflate a tubeless set-up.

You keep saying that but in the rare event that you'll need to install an emergency tube on a tubeless wheel (worst case scenario) it is the EXACT same process as installing a tube on a tubed wheel. Most likely the tubeless guy can plug & go though and be on their way before you have the wheel off your bike.

You're right that I carry the tiniest kit possible because tubeless though, I dang sure ain't going to haul around a full size bike pump that I might use every other year or so.