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My old neighbor used to work for Vail Resorts. His job was to write the snow reports that were released everywhere except Summit County. He worked from his house in Golden. Talk about a great job...
 

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Funny - skiers and borders complain about not having enough of the white stuff - I am bummed by how much there is. I want dirt to ride on!
 

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You are wrong. I have worked on the patrol at Breckenridge for 25 years, and you are wrong. The patrol meassures in person the snow amount on the stake on Peak 8 at around 4:45 in the morning, and transfers the information into a computer database used by the ski area and Colorado Ski Country for reporting purposes. The patrollers/weather persons who do this work conduct it in an honest manner and round down instead of up - always (1/4 -1/2 inches - below 1 inch + trace, below 1/4 inch no report). I know this for a fact. It is very unusual for the marketing department to contact us in regard to this information, and I have never seen a patroller's observation altered. Your problem is you don't know what you are talking about. Wind affects snowfall distribution, and no where is this a bigger issue than Breckenridge. So it is normal to detect inconsistency in the report. We may report 2 inches, but in the North Bowls you could be skiing over a foot. In fact the current location of the Breckenridge snow stake on Peak 8 could have been, and should have been put into a more advantageous location than where it is currently located. It remains for consistency (records) and because many have felt moving it would be misleading. It has been there all 25 years I've worked there. Trust me, there has been plenty of talk and reason to move the stake. It remains. (there is another stake used at the base of Solitude in the Backbowls - and this stake is always referred to as the upper stake. Both are read at 4:45) To really understand snowfall amounts you have to look at the wind; direction and speed. You and Dartmouth have no idea what you are talking about, and to accuse these people who I work with of dishonesty is a real dishonour to their efforts. If you choose your day of skiing based on snowfall reports, perhaps a better question you should be asking is what did the winds do?
 

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I don't know about lying... It's just a question of exactly **where** on the mountain the measurement is taken. Maybe the whole hill didn't get 12" of fresh, but perhaps there was a nice deep drift in the alcove outside the ski patrol office (ahem.) :-D

I've found that Loveland seems to under-report -- so 6" on the ski report, probably measured somewhere near the top of lift 1, usually equates to 10-12" on the leeward side of certain ridges and down in some of the tree chutes. You just gotta pay attention to the wind and weather conditions, and know where to find the goods accordingly.
 

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In the last seven years of skiing summit county I have always found Breckenridge to under-report new snow totals...happily...
 

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"The patrol meassures in person the snow amount on the stake on Peak 8 at around 4:45 in the morning"

Is this measuring stake right in front of a snow making machine? Maybe it's next to a pitched roof and they measure the snow that slid off the roof...

If anyone ever tries to tell me they're honest I will laugh so hard that I cry. And I won't feel sorry for offending the people who so diligently measure snow and report it.
 

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The only thing I've ever questioned are the forecasts... it seems like there is never not a chance of snow at Breckenridge :)
 

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andyjensen said:
You are wrong and you are wrong I know this for a fact. Your problem is you don't know what you are talking about. Trust me, You and Dartmouth have no idea what you are talking about
So what exactly are you getting at there?;)

I realize its hard to tell how much actually fell, crap Vail is 5,200 acres its going to vary. I still don't trust the media!
 

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Wiggs, you are wrong. Start crying. Come to Peak 8, Vista Haus, and I am sure you will be directed to someone who will happily take you through the process, show you the stake far from snowmaking towers. The patrol has a real interest in accurate information for our avalanche work and permanent weather record. The stake is in the woods bewtween Spruce and Springmeir, surrounded by a rope. The spot was chosen because it is wind protected by surrounding trees. In retrospect, I believe it was an honest location for such a meassurement. Snow amounts are reported and recorded by patrol, they have no reason to exaggerate their observations. I've spent thousands of days there, and never have I once seen it.
 

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You are wrong for telling others they are wrong. :p
 

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ANDYJENSEN - I guess you'll never get to prove it to me as I refuse to ski Breck if at all possible. Worst mountain ever! (said in the voice of Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons).

I'd be happy if someone could explain this one to me. Multiple times I've been in the mountains when it's been completely clear skies all night, no snow on the car, no snow on the street, yet the mountain reports 1-inch fresh.

The patrol may not have a reason to exaggerate their observations, but the marketing folks sure do and I'm guessing they're the ones in charge of the resort web site.
 

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Manmountain Dense said:
I've found that Loveland seems to under-report
I've found that to be true on occasion myself... :thumbsup:
 

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Wiggs, you are right.:thumbsup:

Wiggs said:
ANDYJENSEN - I guess you'll never get to prove it to me as I refuse to ski Breck if at all possible. Worst mountain ever! (said in the voice of Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons).
 

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If you look at coloradoski.com right now. You'll see that Howelsen is reporting 4" new, and has been reporting that for some time. It's because thats what they had the last time it was reported, and no one has bothered updating it.

I'd say it's a lack of an updated report or poor web source vs outright lying... although Silverton has had some interesting reports this year.
 
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