No more travel adjust for marzochi

What was so wrong with ETA? It's the only travel adjust an AM/FR fork needs. ATA seems like a pain to use even when it works.

derailin_palin said:

What was so wrong with ETA? It's the only travel adjust an AM/FR fork needs. ATA seems like a pain to use even when it works.

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I think hat ETA worked as long as you really intended to shorten the fork only on climbs, while ATA was supposed to let you ride the fork at whatever height you wanted for most or all of your ride.

rzozaya1969 said:

I think hat ETA worked as long as you really intended to shorten the fork only on climbs, while ATA was supposed to let you ride the fork at whatever height you wanted for most or all of your ride.

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ETA is pretty bulletproof, so I don't see why they eliminated it. It's like the Lyric 2-step or TALAS, except it actually works.

derailin_palin said:

ETA is pretty bulletproof, so I don't see why they eliminated it. It's like the Lyric 2-step or TALAS, except it actually works.

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It works fine, but when you shorten the travel, you only get like 30mm travel, while Talas or 2-Step or U-Turn or ATA you get more, depending on where you set the travel.

I'm with derailin on this, eta worked well, you get around 40mm travel if you slam the fork down with force, left alone on climbs it's more like very slow rebound, way better than rockshoks lock out at the top of travel with full rebound. If you don't need it it turns off with a flip of a lever.
I have 5 05 through 07 zokes with eta, plan on keeping em till something better comes along.

kneecap said:

I'm with derailin on this, eta worked well, you get around 40mm travel if you slam the fork down with force, left alone on climbs it's more like very slow rebound, way better than rockshoks lock out at the top of travel with full rebound. If you don't need it it turns off with a flip of a lever.
I have 5 05 through 07 zokes with eta, plan on keeping em till something better comes along.

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I'm in no way saying that ETA is a bad or useless feature, I do think that it's a great feature on the Zocchi products.

What I'm saying is that it's not the same as ATA or TALAS or 2-Step or U-Turn. In my case, I have a Lyric U-Turn. I usually ride the fork at 140mm travel, and only drop it to 160mm for descents. I couldn't do that with ETA. If I lowered the fork to have the same a-to-c as the lyric at 140mm, I would only get 30 or 40mm of travel, not 140mm.

rzozaya1969 said:

I'm in no way saying that ETA is a bad or useless feature, I do think that it's a great feature on the Zocchi products.

What I'm saying is that it's not the same as ATA or TALAS or 2-Step or U-Turn. In my case, I have a Lyric U-Turn. I usually ride the fork at 140mm travel, and only drop it to 160mm for descents. I couldn't do that with ETA. If I lowered the fork to have the same a-to-c as the lyric at 140mm, I would only get 30 or 40mm of travel, not 140mm.

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Latest iteration of the ETA had the TAS, which is a travel adjuster in the guise of U-Turn. Marzocchi could make it 30mm adjustment (it was 20mm on TAS, I see no mechanical issues on taking it up to 30mm) AND still could be dropped to the crown if needed.

It was simple, bombproof... not on the fly, mind you, but I wouldn't call my U-Turn on the fly neither.

All travel adjustment systems seem to have their own issues and a source of warranty nightmares.

ETA was more of a "climbing aid", but it was really good. Put a ETA/TAS cart on the current 55RC3 and you have a winner.

I use ATA in my 2009 888's because I was tired of not being able to find the correct spring rate. Travel adjust-ability wasn't an influence but I do use it and it helps noticeably on the steep inclines (yes, I climb with my DH).

ATA has issues with leaking but it's an easy fix. The system itself is extremely simple. I believe using an air cart does have advantages over coil and just requires a bit more maintenance.

I'm with Warp. The TAS/ETA set up was a winner in my All Mountain 1. The TST damper in the other leg was another story......