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Im looking to be a 80mm fork on my new frame, and Im trying to explore my options. I prefer to ride a rigid fork, but this bike will be my workhorse for my 24 hour races this year(hoping for at least 4), so I think a little bit of travel should be a good thing esp. with the right fork.

You cant convice me to go with more travel, so dont try. Its a custom frame designed around 80mm.

Im looking at the Fox F80x, as it seems to be rigid when you would want a rigid and squichy when that would be desirable. Right now this is what im planing on, and saveing for.

Thought about a SID race or team, cant remember which right now. I like that you can lock it it, but i also dont like it for that. I dont realy want to have to think about locking my fork for a climb, esp at 4am with an hour of sleep if im lucky.

Are there any other options that have some type of stable pedeling platform? Has to be disc ready. Thanks for you time and imput.
 

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Reba, maybe...

Isn't there going to be a light short travel Motion Control fork that replaces the SID sometime soon?

I have an '05 Reba, and it can be reduced to 85mm of travel. I use the bar mounted Poplock lockout all the time, and it is a piece of cake... just flip a lever with your thumb. Poplock can be set to lock out, but still allow travel when it hits a bump, and you can adjust how big a bump releases it. You can dial it in so it is just a bit more firm than unlocked, or fully rigid.

I have the Race version which is around 3.5 lbs.

*edit*

I guess SID is still in the lineup, but they added Motion Control like the Reba.

From the rockshox site:

[ SID ] - Team Features & Specs

  • Travel: 80mm
  • Adjust: All Travel
  • Weight: 1374g / 3.02 lb
  • Spring: Dual Air
  • Adjust: Positive and Negative Schrader valve
  • Damping: Motion Control
  • Adjust: External rebound, Floodgate, external compression and lock, PopLoc Remote*
  • Lowers: Ovalized magnesium
  • Crown: Hollow forged 6061 T-6 Aluminum
  • Steerer Tube: Butted Aluminum
  • Upper Tube: 28mm 7000 series aluminum, low friction anodized, with travel gradients
  • Colors: Athena White, Diffusion Black
  • Options: Post or No Post
  • Recommended Rear Shock: MC3.R / Ario 2.R
  • Upgrade: Over Race - Motion Control Damping, remote
  • *PopLoc Remote priced and sold separately
* Weights are based on 200 mm steerer tube pre-production models and may vary. Actual fork travel may vary +/- 3 mm. Specifications and call-outs are preliminary and are subject to change.

* Not all color and remote combinations will be available. See options guide or contact your salesperson for additional information.
 

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Marzocchi Marathon Race

80 mm and built for XC racing. Should be something to consider along with the others recommended so far.
 

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Little or no bob without a manual lockout and 80mm travel.

Fox F80x or Manitou R-Seven Platinum are pretty much your only choices at this point. Marzocchi and RS have handlebar mounted compression controls, but you have to remember to change the settings while you ride, they're not set-and-forget.

From what I've read (don't have the money to ride either of these forks, let alone both :p ), the Fox is pretty much locked out until you hit a bump, but there's a little hesitation, depending on how big the bump is. You may really like it, since you like a rigid fork. The Manitou is still a pretty firm platform and is more seamless and smooth than the Fox, but I'm not sure it'll have the "rigid" platform that the Fox does. The Fox should be a little easier to set and forget, but the Manitou may have a little more adjustability. Both forks should weigh about the same (even though Manitou claims a 3.0 lb weight, I don't think I've seen any actually weigh under 3.3) The Fox retails for $775, Manitou for $600.

Hate to say it, but you may have to ride both forks to figure it out.
 

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I have had a couple of terralogic forks. They work basically as promised, except they aren't exactly locked out, the brass weight which closes of the compression ports allows for the oil to bleed, so when you sit on your bike, you're not on a rigid fork, as it will sag slowly to its riding height. On trail, when you hit a bump, there's a slight spike you can feel, on that first bump, as the weight of the brass creates a small hydraulic lock, until it is pushed up and the compression port opens, then the fork rides just like any other Float. The best thing about the X is virtualy no brake dive, unless you're braking on a really rough trail.

REBA has the pop lock, which is a handlebar mounted piece which resembles a trigger shifter. Press the little lever and you're locked out, release it and you're fully active. A great feature about REBA is the floodgate, which is a blowoff valve when you're locked out. If you happen to forget to unlock it on the down, a large force of impact will blow the valve open and the fork will compress.

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Reba

coolhandluchs said:
Little or no bob without a manual lockout and 80mm travel.

Fox F80x or Manitou R-Seven Platinum are pretty much your only choices at this point. Marzocchi and RS have handlebar mounted compression controls, but you have to remember to change the settings while you ride, they're not set-and-forget.

From what I've read (don't have the money to ride either of these forks, let alone both :p ), the Fox is pretty much locked out until you hit a bump, but there's a little hesitation, depending on how big the bump is. You may really like it, since you like a rigid fork. The Manitou is still a pretty firm platform and is more seamless and smooth than the Fox, but I'm not sure it'll have the "rigid" platform that the Fox does. The Fox should be a little easier to set and forget, but the Manitou may have a little more adjustability. Both forks should weigh about the same (even though Manitou claims a 3.0 lb weight, I don't think I've seen any actually weigh under 3.3) The Fox retails for $775, Manitou for $600.

Hate to say it, but you may have to ride both forks to figure it out.
I've heard bad things about the seals on terralogic forks, and I have a spv fork, which just increases preload, does not block bob. I think reba team w/ poplock is your best choice.
 

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coolhandluchs said:
Little or no bob without a manual lockout and 80mm travel.

Fox F80x or Manitou R-Seven Platinum are pretty much your only choices at this point. Marzocchi and RS have handlebar mounted compression controls, but you have to remember to change the settings while you ride, they're not set-and-forget.

From what I've read (don't have the money to ride either of these forks, let alone both :p ), the Fox is pretty much locked out until you hit a bump, but there's a little hesitation, depending on how big the bump is. You may really like it, since you like a rigid fork. The Manitou is still a pretty firm platform and is more seamless and smooth than the Fox, but I'm not sure it'll have the "rigid" platform that the Fox does. The Fox should be a little easier to set and forget, but the Manitou may have a little more adjustability. Both forks should weigh about the same (even though Manitou claims a 3.0 lb weight, I don't think I've seen any actually weigh under 3.3) The Fox retails for $775, Manitou for $600.

Hate to say it, but you may have to ride both forks to figure it out.
I agree, really the only way ill know for sure is if i ride both. But this build is going to be a finiancl strech as it is, just dont have the coin for that, which is why im here.

Just out of curiousity, have you ridden either of the 2 forks you mentioned? I like the Manitous price tag a bit more, and I like that its disc only. I have a review of the R7 plaitnum somewhere, just have to remember what mag its in.

I realize how eazy the pop lock or similar methods are, but thats besides the point. It takes enough consontration (sorry for the crappy spelling, I just woke up). to stay upright on the bike at night with no sleep. That was on a 4 man team, ill be doing more 2 man events this year. Not making excuses, as im sure many many people ride remote lockouts in these events, its just not what im looking for.

85mm travel > 80mm travel. Not what im looking for, plus I would have to buy a kit and put it in to get almost what I want. If they had an 80mm reba I would take a look, but they dont so its out.

Ill look at the marz. today at work.

Thanks for the imput so for and coolhand thanks for actually reading my post and responding accordingly.
 

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Manitou SPV considerations....

Are there any other options that have some type of stable pedeling platform? Has to be disc ready. Thanks for you time and imput.[/QUOTE]

Hey,
I have been riding a Manitou minute 100 with SPV for 2 years on a full susp bike. Not exactly related to the new sevens but some things may be comparable.

What I like about the fork is that I can set the platform for the race course. The smoother the course, the more platform I can put in and it is easy to do. But once set it is set..(although in a 24 hour race you could make adjustments at the end of a lap). The higher the platform setting the less responsive to small bumps. I run a pretty big front tire so that does not matter to me too much when racing and when trail riding I just put less air in the SPV chamber. The SPV really reduces brake dive, especially when seated. Overall, real easy to adjust and works great.
Potential downsides. Does not lock out so when standing and cranking the fork will bob. I am a seated climber so does not affect me too much. Maybe small bump compliance but I have not found that to be an issue and the newer SPV designs are supposed to be better than the first incarnation which I have.

Overall, I think the Seven would be a great race fork.

Greg
 

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SandmanLJS said:
Im looking to be a 80mm fork on my new frame, and Im trying to explore my options. I prefer to ride a rigid fork, but this bike will be my workhorse for my 24 hour races this year(hoping for at least 4), so I think a little bit of travel should be a good thing esp. with the right fork.

You cant convice me to go with more travel, so dont try. Its a custom frame designed around 80mm.

Im looking at the Fox F80x, as it seems to be rigid when you would want a rigid and squichy when that would be desirable. Right now this is what im planing on, and saveing for.

Thought about a SID race or team, cant remember which right now. I like that you can lock it it, but i also dont like it for that. I dont realy want to have to think about locking my fork for a climb, esp at 4am with an hour of sleep if im lucky.

Are there any other options that have some type of stable pedeling platform? Has to be disc ready. Thanks for you time and imput.
Do not overlook the new White Brothers Majic 80 XC fork.The IMV internals will allow you to set it and forget it. The adjuster on the crown lets you set the bump threashold for your riding style.The use of the magnet lets the fork absorb the entire bump before the rebound takes over.SRP $679.00
 

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One other possible option

If you're strapped for cash, you may be able to find a fairly cheap used '03-'04 Float RLC and send it to Push and have the "factory fork" treatment for about $185. They can adjust the lockout threshold to act as a platform which should be much more supple than the X fork while giving you the ability to "unlock" the fork and have a nice squishy ride if you want. It may be a little cheaper, depending on what you can get the Float for. Some other people might be able to verify Push's platform performance, do a search, or just call Push, they're pretty good at working with customers.

www.pushindustries.com

Oh yeah, haven't ridden either the R-7 or the 80x...too much money for me right now and my tastes tend to run to longer squishier forks. I have a Vanilla RLC, and I can use the lockout as a platform (lockout adjusts from nearly immovable to hardly there) but I don't think I'd want to run the fork like that all the time. I'm not sure the blowoff valve would last for day-in-day-out riding.
 
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