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bushpig said:
Definitely in need of a new paint job. I guess I put a high value on an fb P-Series ;)
i would ride the sh!t out of that bike.. the numbers fit me perfect. i wouldn't even paint it..build and hit the road.
 

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He originally had it listed as an '88 P-25. I mentioned there were no P-series in 1988, and never a P-25 .
 

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Ritchey has my other fb p23 for repair of some canti mounts and quoted me $150 for single color paint for frame fork and stem. I am hoping this new one was mis advertized and is actually a suspension corrected version of the frame so I can run suspension. I think it is as ritchey made the suspension corrected when they started to use ritchey dropout rather than the shimano that are on my og p23. At the same time they went to 27.0 seatposts from 26.8. I think its a good deal considering since i'm in Chicago and dont have to pay for shipping too. We'll see.
 

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Ritchey has my other fb p23 for repair of some canti mounts and quoted me $150 for single color paint for frame fork and stem. I am hoping this new one was mis advertized and is actually a suspension corrected version of the frame so I can run suspension. I think it is as ritchey made the suspension corrected when they started to use ritchey dropout rather than the shimano that are on my og p23. At the same time they went to 27.0 seatposts from 26.8. I think its a good deal considering since i'm in Chicago and dont have to pay for shipping too. We'll see.
i don't think it's suspension corrected..
 

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Ritchey has my other fb p23 for repair of some canti mounts and quoted me $150 for single color paint for frame fork and stem. I am hoping this new one was mis advertized and is actually a suspension corrected version of the frame so I can run suspension. I think it is as ritchey made the suspension corrected when they started to use ritchey dropout rather than the shimano that are on my og p23. At the same time they went to 27.0 seatposts from 26.8. I think its a good deal considering since i'm in Chicago and dont have to pay for shipping too. We'll see.
Most definitely not suspension corrected. Ive never seen a P-series have a 26.8 post either...
 

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Most definitely not suspension corrected. Ive never seen a P-series have a 26.8 post either...
both my P-23 Team and P-21 Tig are 26.8, my '90/91 P-23 tig is 27.0, go figure :crazy:
 

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These sizes are correct, My '89 Ultra is 26.8 also, I could pull a Rumpf and just pound in the 27.0 to make them fit :eekster:
 

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These sizes are correct, My '89 Ultra is 26.8 also, I could pull a Rumph and just pound in the 27.0 to make them fit :eekster:
But we all know an Ultra is not a P series bike. ;)

I think the 27.0 (very rare) came when Tom started manipulating tubing to his own specs. And this started on the P bikes I think...

Addendum: Note that the P series bikes used different tubing than the Ultra. The P bike uses Prestige which I would assume would be thinner gauge than 4130 (ie slightly larger seatpost).

https://www.oldmountainbikes.com/catalogs/ritchey/1990/ritchey1990_02.jpg
 

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But we all know an Ultra is not a P series bike. ;)

I think the 27.0 (very rare) came when Tom started manipulating tubing to his own specs. And this started on the P bikes I think...

Addendum: Note that the P series bikes used different tubing than the Ultra. The P bike uses Prestige which I would assume would be thinner gauge than 4130 (ie slightly larger seatpost).

[https://www.oldmountainbikes.com/catalogs/ritchey/1989/ritchey1989_08.jpg[/url]
Yes, in '90 the Ultra got the lowley 4130 tubing, but in '89 it was made with prestige :D https://www.oldmountainbikes.com/catalogs/ritchey/1989/ritchey1989_08.jpg

I like to think of my Ultra as a poor mans Super comp ;) Maybe the P-series race bikes were 26.8 :rolleyes: and the run of the mill P-series were 27.0 ? every gram counts :eekster: Actually I have no idea why some are 26.8, the more I learn about Ritcheys the more questions there are.
 

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Yes, in '90 the Ultra got the lowley 4130 tubing, but in '89 it was made with prestige :D https://www.oldmountainbikes.com/catalogs/ritchey/1989/ritchey1989_08.jpg

I like to think of my Ultra as a poor mans Super comp ;) Maybe the P-series race bikes were 26.8 :rolleyes: and the run of the mill P-series were 27.0 ? every gram counts :eekster: Actually I have no idea why some are 26.8, the more I learn about Ritcheys the more questions there are.
Right, but the Ultra was never made with LOGIC Prestige, which is the stuff Tom designed with Tange with different than standard wall thicknesses.

All said, a 26.8 is only very slightly smaller than a 27.0 anyway. Either post would probably fit in a frame made for either... But the P bikes came with 27.0 posts.
 

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Right, but the Ultra was never made with LOGIC Prestige, which is the stuff Tom designed with Tange with different than standard wall thicknesses.

All said, a 26.8 is only very slightly smaller than a 27.0 anyway. Either post would probably fit in a frame made for either... But the P bikes came with 27.0 posts.
I was talking to Jack, the owner of tubing supply company last year: , he was the importer of Tange Tubing in the 80's/90's until it was no longer available here. He sold to all the bicycle builders. When I asking about the Ritchey Logic Prestige he laughed and said it was just shorter butts. There were some issues with it at 1st :eekster: , breaking/cracking and they made some changes. Tange also had there own short butted Prestige that came on the '91 Paramount PDG 90. Probably the same stuff.
 

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Fillet-brazed said:
Right, but the Ultra was never made with LOGIC Prestige, which is the stuff Tom designed with Tange with different than standard wall thicknesses.

All said, a 26.8 is only very slightly smaller than a 27.0 anyway. Either post would probably fit in a frame made for either... But the P bikes came with 27.0 posts.
My Crazy Pete / P23 is 27.0
 

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I already asked those same questions to Heidi there. :) Atleast I think that was her name.

Jack was just telling you what you wanted to hear. He knew you slept with your Ultra in your room and dreamed about it all the time. ;)

Ah, who knows. I just know both of my P bikes had 27.0 posts in them. As did Rumpfys...

I guess you could try a 27.0 post in yours to check.
 

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I already asked those same questions to Heidi there. :) Atleast I think that was her name.

Jack was just telling you what you wanted to hear. He knew you slept with your Ultra in your room and dreamed about it all the time. ;)

Ah, who knows. I just know both of my P bikes had 27.0 posts in them. As did Rumpfys...

I guess you could try a 27.0 post in yours to check.
OK, I just tried a Ritchey FD 27.0 post that came with my P-23 Tig in the P-23 team, no way would it go unless I pound it in. Same with the P-21 tig. I think these must be the racing bikes :rolleyes: lighter weight you know :skep:

And I do love the Ultra :eekster: It will be getting new paint this summer :thumbsup:
 

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"I already asked those same questions to Heidi there. Atleast I think that was her name."

You snake!!! ;)
 
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