I'd buy the Sultan.
downhilly said:I am currently the proud owner of a DW 5 spot having converted over from a 08 rfx. both bikes performed excellent and i have found that the 5-spot certainly gets uphill alot easier than the RFX and have heard others talking how when descending/jumping the old HL/TNT link is better but personally i didnt notice the difference. i know the 5 spot feels more laterally stiff so maybe that makes up for it. just my opinion. cheers.:thumbsup:
I think you are right, he sounds like he is just asking for confirmation to justify a choice already made.Mtn. Biker123 said:If you have to ask, you'll probably like the 5spot better.
LMAO. That is classic. This revelation should save people zillions on components.electricsnail said:dw 5 spot, you will be much happier with the performance even with the cheaper components...
lidarman said:I think you are right, he sounds like he is just asking for confirmation to justify a choice already made.
You hit the nail on the head, some of your nicer components will not be compatible so the money spent on them is short term although it's not like everythng from a Spot will go right over either. Whatever you decide you'll be getting a good bike so you're covered.scottryana said:So the question is save some money on the older frame and buy nicer components and hope that they are compatible with the new RFX frame, but probably won't be, or bite the bullet and go with the 5 Spot frame if it is a good replacement for the older RFX.
Nope.scottryana said:So the 5 Spot is the old RFX replacement? or at least for the later RFX's that went a little more towards the light side.
Does this mean that your new deedub is on order?S-Works said:I don't know if this will help, but I went from a 6 pack to an 07 RFX. Noticeably better climber, smoother descender with the different shock ratio. Depending on what shock I run and what tires I run, the weight is between 31 to 34 pounds.
I've been looking to get a bit lighter, upper 20's, so I got mtb123's panties in a bunch by asking if the DW spot is as capable as my RFX. I asked because it seemed like alot of homers were selling RFX's and getting the new spot, and they really liked it.
I don't remember DT's exact response, but he said something to the effect: yes the new spot is nearly as capable (I read: not as capable descender, but close) as the 07/08 RFX (Obviously depends on setup as well). It just climbs alot better.
So if I had the choice you presented. DW spot.
:[/QUOTE]Mr Pink said:Sounds more like there were too many people on RFX's that should have been on 5spots to begin with. Typical for MTBR...
I'll bite - do you know the terrain that everyone rides intimately? do you know their bike set up preferences? their riding style? their geometry preferences? You can not make sweeping generalizations like that IMO. As I have said I have been on two older 5 Spots an 06 RFX and an 08 RFX before swapping the 08 RFX parts (minus the seat post) onto a 2010 DW Spot. The terrain I ride is extremely rocky, technical, slow rolling with very short but steep ups and downs. I lked the extra travel of the 08 RFX and the steeper seat angle for climbing. I also liked the slacker head angle for descending over the older 5 Spots. On the 08 RFX I would rarely go off anything higher than the top of my seat. I used it like a long legged trail bike. I enjoyed the bike a great deal - does it mean I was on the wrong bike because I wasn't hucking it the way you would? despite the fact it matched my riding style and terrain well? Don't forget the 09/10 DW Spot's are the first ones designed for 160mm forks. Maybe if the DW Spot had come out in 06/07 I might have skipped an RFX but the 09/10 Spot is very, very similar to an 09/10 5 Spot with 150mm fork - I give the edge to the DW on climbing and efficiency and the RFX the edge on descending but it's close. The fact they are so closely matched is precisely why the DW RFX will be beefier and longer in it's travel and is taking 2 years to produce - in order to get the right line up separation. If the man who designed all these bikes thinks there is little to chose between an 07/08 RFX and an 09/10 5 Spot why do you find it so hard to accept?Mtn. Biker123 said:Sounds more like there were too many people on RFX's that should have been on 5spots to begin with. Typical for MTBR...