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New Stan's Crest rim to be built with DT 240s... Weights

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Schmucker

Discussion Starter · Jan 16, 2010 (Edited)

So I'm building a new wheelset. Here are the weights.

DT Swiss 240s 9mm Thru-bolt hub: 131.7g
DT Swiss 240s SS QR SS hub: 233.0g
DT Comp 295mm blk spokes, 64ct: 416.9g
DT Alloy nipples 12x2.0, 64ct, 19.4g
Thru-bolt RWS: 52.8g
Steel RWS QR, 135mm: 51.6g
As you can see the RWS skewers are higher than claimed but the hubs are lower than claimed.
Stan's Notubes Crest 29 blk rims: 364.5g/365.5g and without the stickers they are 363.6g/364.6g respectively. The stickers are only 0.9g so removing them is users choice. Pretty minor really. Should easily build into a sub 1600g wheelset. Give me a week or so and I'll weigh the final wheels. The spacers and lockring for the rear hub are 14.2g. Should I be including QR/Thru-bolt/spacer/lockring weights in with the wheelset weight? I don't think so but I just want to check. Also, I calibrated and checked my balance with analytical weights good to +/- 0.0005g. Also, I am currently drunk at this time. Go Spotted Cow.

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CB2

· #2 · Jan 16, 2010

Hope it's just drunken weigh in and not drunken tensioning!:eekster:
I consider the skewers as part of the wheels, but most pre-built sets don't include them. I guess for consistency don't include them.

Juanmoretime

· #3 · Jan 16, 2010

Has to be a drunken weight since it say the stickers weight over a 100 grams per wheel and you can't operate a calculator to give use a total.:thumbsup:

More drunken posting please. I can't do it until tonight after the home brew/ soup party.

azjonboy

· #4 · Jan 16, 2010

About 1658 grams. Pretty good weight. What do you weigh that lets you ride a sub 400 gram rim?

ne_dan

· #5 · Jan 16, 2010

I just got a set of Crest rims, laced to 240's with supercomps and they came in at 1553 grams. By the way you have some heavy stickers on those rims.

rooster44

· #6 · Jan 16, 2010

If you do some research on the new Crest, riders don't have to be feather weight to ride them. They claim to be just as strong as the 355's. No mention of tires- What difference does a skewer that's a bit heavy matter when you have 700g tires (I know you probably will have lighter weight tires, but for the sake of making a point...) Please do post your tires & riding impressions- I'm planning on doing the same setup on my new BS in the spring but running 1X9 & Sapim CX-Ray spokes...I hope for both our sakes that these Crest rims are as good as everything else put out by stan

flafonta

· #7 · Jan 16, 2010

I have also been thinking about such wheelset for my next SS bike.

Can someone shed some light on engagement of the 240S SS hubs?

I had heard that they have more engagement than the non-SS 240s. Is that true? If not, can you upgrade them to the new engagement "thing"(36pts?)?

Fishlips

· #8 · Jan 16, 2010

ne_dan said:
I just got a set of Crest rims, laced to 240's with supercomps and they came in at 1553 grams. By the way you have some heavy stickers on those rims.

Very nice. Crests are going to be hugely popular if they can build up at that weight.

Schmucker

Discussion Starter · #9 · Jan 16, 2010

Okay, fixed the one typo with the second rim weights. I did all the weighing sober, just the posting drunk. My head hurts.

I'm definitely impressed by the low weight. They had claimed 370g, but now they're claiming 380g so being under their original claim and also so close in weight to each other is pretty good. So 1548.8g for the wheelset but we shall see once I get around to actually building them sometime this week. I won't be riding them until spring anyways. I just needed some bike stuff to do. My rear hub weight is also with the lighter 36pt star ratchets installed. They're machined out on the inside so they don't weight as much as the stock 18pt ones.

dirtrider7

· #10 · Jan 16, 2010

Anybody know of a wheel builder that makes that the Crest/geared DT hub combination?
I am wondering what the pricepoint would be for that wheelset?

Schmucker

Discussion Starter · #11 · Jan 16, 2010

Mikesee would build it. Someplace around $800 depending on spoke choice.

hobiesmith

· #12 · Jan 16, 2010

so whats the recomended weight restictions on these rims?

i weigh 175 at my lightest so i havent wanted to get the 355's and ruin them in a year so i was going to get the arches, but these seem like a good middle ground, or no?

DirtDummy

· #13 · Jan 16, 2010

see below from this thread: http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=584347

That is more then I would have thought. I was looking to build a set of Stans ZTR Crest but Pete tells me thr weight limit is 185.

Looks like this wheelset will be a race wheelset for I.

Schmucker

Discussion Starter · #14 · Jan 16, 2010

Well, good thing I weigh 185lbs. Higher volume tires at lower pressures should be a decent buffer. I'm going to start with Race Kings and see what happens. ERD is close enough to the Arch that I can reuse the spokes if necessary. I like to think that I'm a fairly graceful rider. I do rigid SS so there won't be suspension to take the extra force, but then there isn't suspension to numb the feel of the trail so I can react to the trail.

ne_dan

· #15 · Jan 16, 2010

dirtrider7 said:
Anybody know of a wheel builder that makes that the Crest/geared DT hub combination?
I am wondering what the pricepoint would be for that wheelset?

Bike29.com built mine up for a little over $800. I had them at my door in a week, and they are soooo nice.

Ligero

· #16 · Jan 17, 2010

I got 6 crest rims in last week and they are all 360 to 363g. I will be building them up to DT 240's and Industry9 hubs next week.

mikesee

· #17 · Jan 17, 2010

Hey--your scale is lighter than mine!

Ligero said:
I got 6 crest rims in last week and they are all 360 to 363g. I will be building them up to DT 240's and Industry9 hubs next week.

I got in 8 of them this week, all right at 365 or 366. Laced 4 of them so far and am very, very impressed by the ease with which they balance out. The bead interface/sidewall *looks* much thinner/more anemic than the 355 or Arch. But that's just looks--we'll know in a few months how well they're holding up on the trail.

MC

big_slacker

· #18 · Jan 17, 2010

I'm planning on a set of these as well. ZTR+crest seems a great budget combo. Seen these for $450 on ebay from stans.

GRFSR

· #19 · Jan 17, 2010

Crest 29er

Just got my new Crest 29er/American Classic SS wheels. They're built up with DT Supercomps and alloy nipples. Didn't weigh them but they were SUPER light. Can't weight to ride them.

EBasil

· #20 · Jan 17, 2010

flafonta said:
Can someone shed some light on engagement of the 240S SS hubs?

I had heard that they have more engagement than the non-SS 240s. Is that true? If not, can you upgrade them to the new engagement "thing"(36pts?)?

The SS hubs use the same 18pt star ratchet as the full-cassette hubs, and they can be updated to use the 36pt star ratchet in the same way. I just did mine.

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