[DIRT BOY]

What do you guys think about 1384g Road Wheels with DT Aerolight Spokes or Sapim CX-rays, and 20mm Semi-Aero rims for under $450? Light enough for the money?

Sound good?? Just a little heavier than AC Sprint 350's and way cheaper....
Hubs quailty the same and nice rims.

I will post some pics when I get my pair in a few weeks...

 

[eurorider]

You don't know what the hubs and rims are?

 

[nino]

What do you guys think about 1384g Road Wheels with DT Aerolight Spokes or Sapim CX-rays, and 20mm Aero rims for under $450? Light enough for the money?

Sound good?? Just a little heavier than AC Sprint 350's and way cheaper....
Hubs quailty the same and nice rims.

I will post some pics when I get my pair in a few weeks...

well - some places sell the 1280g Amclassic 350 Sprint for just 390$, the 1370g AC 420 for 415$ (that's with Sapim CX-rays) and 35mm high aero rim. a 20mm rim is never "aero". the AC350 is 25mm and also aero-shaped but at such minimal heights the term "aero" is kind of irrelevant.

 

[DIRT BOY]

Were do you see these pricies??

Also the rims I am taking about are SEMI-AERO @ 20mm due to shape. More for looks though <img>.

 

[DIRT BOY]

These are Private Labeled....

set.
I have a wheelbuilder I am working with and these are manufactured for the under the "Primavera" name. Primavera hubs and Alex EST13/14 re-labled for Primavera.

Build: 24h/28 Radial front, radial NGS, x2 GS rear.

Hubs: Front 73g Rear: 234g
Rims front: 370g and Rear: 410g

 

[moose8500]

Though you might get AC for cheap, their hubs are complete CRAP, which will never work other than a show bike. Even some no-name primavera has more possibilities of being marginally better than AC crap.

 

[eurorider]

Though you might get AC for cheap, their hubs are complete CRAP, which will never work other than a show bike. Even some no-name primavera has more possibilities of being marginally better than AC crap.

The front hub is a top choice IMO. 57 g and handles radial lacing without a sweat. I use that hub on my MTB so it makes me shake my head when I see other road hubs that are heavier.

It's the rear hubs that are questionable. I won't buy an American Classic rear hub (or wheelset) until the durability/reliability gets sorted out...

 

[nino]

prices...

Also the rims I am taking about are SEMI-AERO @ 20mm due to shape. More for looks though <img>.

in switzerland
and on ebay germany

 

[nino]

new 2005 ACs are good

Though you might get AC for cheap, their hubs are complete CRAP, which will never work other than a show bike. Even some no-name primavera has more possibilities of being marginally better than AC crap.

you are right, pre '05 hubs had too many problems.

however the new 2005 hubs have been redesigned and several issues of eralier versions got straightened out. just NOW they released an upgrade for the rear freehub which solves the sometimes occurring problems. the delivered steel plate goes in place of the original plate and makes for very good engagement. we use these hubs on MTBs in snow and mud and never had a problem and with my road wheels i did thousands of miles without any problems whatsoever. the new magnesium wheels are incredibly light (1223g clincher) and accelerate like you had a turbo attached - insane!!

the weight of these hubs combined with their prices are hard to match.

pictured below is the freehub upgrade of American Classic:

 

[moose8500]

OK, since I truly love lightweight, but USEABLE stuff, I'll give these new and improved AC a chance. Might pick one up, to test. However, the problem had been "corrected" before and it was still crap, so we'll see....

 

[DIRT BOY]

More info on the hubs...

From the Builder:

Part of the design brief for my hubs was that they be competative in weight and design features as any of the top end hubs available, so they have all the features, with a low weight, and a good lifespan with some features that I wanted, like our through-axle design, which takes the side loads off the hub bearings and allows a bigger axle. Larger axle diameter makes for a stiffer hub, longer bearing life, and smoother rolling. I think we did that, plus it's easy to change cassette body without tools, something that's not very common.

Our hubs have four bearings in the rear, two in front, oversize internally relieved axles, three pawls, multiple seals, and forged shells (forged shells are stronger than CNC ones).

As soon as pics are done, I will post some. I am promised these willl look really nice!