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I guess Pivot is really hyped about their XC racing team and has put out a new LES. Claimed to be about 300 grams lighter with new carbon layup, integrated headset, and new carbon (non-SS-compatible) dropouts. Supposed to be about 2.3 pounds for a medium. Geo looks similar or exactly the same as old model.
https://www.pivotcycles.com/en/bike-les-sl-1
 

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That is a pretty significant drop in grams. I still have the V1 and the geo has remained the same on subsequent updates. I guess if it is working for the racers, why change it. That said, I still think a rowdy trail hardtail would be great, but not sure if the market is asking for that.
 

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That is a pretty significant drop in grams. I still have the V1 and the geo has remained the same on subsequent updates. I guess if it is working for the racers, why change it. That said, I still think a rowdy trail hardtail would be great, but not sure if the market is asking for that.
Yeah, IMO rowdy and hardtail are mutually exclusive. Well, I guess instead of "in my opinion" I should have said "in between my butt cheeks".
 

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I would be all over it if they has kept the Swinger II dropout, I need the SS option as that is what I ride 99% of the time (Gen II Les). I was pretty bummed to see it with a fixed dropout...
 

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Why are the seat tube angles still so slack on race bikes such as this one? Makes no sense, since steep seat tube aids climbing.
Because it's not a long travel bike where when you sit, you sag a bunch and the SA slackens even more, in addition to more rearward weight bias when climbing.
 
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