30 inch width sounds like the carbon Havoc models. I just put some on a bike and have yet to ride them, but the rise and bend feels great. I do NOT plan on trimming them...zmtthw said:Thats good to hear. I'm looking forward to putting it on. I have a different carbon bar on there now, that isn't as wide and actually has a good little raise on it. I tried a wide bar on my big bike and I felt like a sail boat. It just felt a little out there for me, it was a 30in width. I know going wide is the new thing, but hopefully this bar will fit in between the two. My shop has a blade designed to cut carbon so if its to crazy I can just cut some off. Thanks for the replies!!