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nalby

Discussion Starter · Jul 26, 2004

I'm looking to get a new rear deraillier. Right now I have xtr, but am thinking of getting either x.9 or x.0. Any opinions would be helpful. also which cage to get long or med.
I have a 2000 Ellsworth Truth full xtr 11-34 cassette. thanks in advance

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OneBlueJoker

· #2 · Jul 26, 2004

if there is nothing wrong with your der. you have now, i would just keep it unless it is smashed or something.

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nalby

Discussion Starter · #3 · Jul 27, 2004

OneBlueJoker said:
if there is nothing wrong with your der. you have now, i would just keep it unless it is smashed or something.

it's pretty banged up, but it never really shifted right on the truth. I've heard the sram works good on the truth so i figured i'd give it a try.

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osokolo

· #4 · Jul 27, 2004

never shifted right?????

nalby said:
it's pretty banged up, but it never really shifted right on the truth. I've heard the sram works good on the truth so i figured i'd give it a try.

get someone who knows what he is doing to fix it for you.

mine is working just like a charm... i was thinking about X.0 myself, but decided to stay with XTR...

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SSINGA

· #5 · Jul 27, 2004

nalby said:
I'm looking to get a new rear deraillier. Right now I have xtr, but am thinking of getting either x.9 or x.0. Any opinions would be helpful. also which cage to get long or med.
I have a 2000 Ellsworth Truth full xtr 11-34 cassette. thanks in advance

For the same $$ of an XO derailleur you can get the X9 derailleur and X9 triggers. I have to admit I bought the XO for the bling factor and I'm a poser, but functionally they are the same. I went with the long cage because that is what was available, but could have used the short because I don't run a big ring and don't need the range.

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rr

· #6 · Jul 27, 2004

nalby said:
I'm looking to get a new rear deraillier. Right now I have xtr, but am thinking of getting either x.9 or x.0. Any opinions would be helpful. also which cage to get long or med.
I have a 2000 Ellsworth Truth full xtr 11-34 cassette. thanks in advance

Are you talking about the der. rubbing on the big cog? The Truth's der. hanger is not long enough for the 34t cog with shitmano der., I bought the longer hanger and it still rubbed. If you turn the b-tension screw all the way in to stop the rubbing, it does shift poorly in the smaller cogs. The [email protected] der. will not rub and will shift better, go with the long cage.

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chad1433

· #7 · Jul 27, 2004

SRAM, SRAM, SRAM...it's very very good. Never misses a shift, is crisp and clean. X.9 is probably just as good as X.0, just a bit heavier. The only draw back then is that you have to have the compatible shifters to match.

If you've got the cash, I'd go for it.

nalby said:
I'm looking to get a new rear deraillier. Right now I have xtr, but am thinking of getting either x.9 or x.0. Any opinions would be helpful. also which cage to get long or med.
I have a 2000 Ellsworth Truth full xtr 11-34 cassette. thanks in advance

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nalby

Discussion Starter · #8 · Jul 27, 2004

rroeder said:
Are you talking about the der. rubbing on the big cog? The Truth's der. hanger is not long enough for the 34t cog with shitmano der., I bought the longer hanger and it still rubbed. If you turn the b-tension screw all the way in to stop the rubbing, it does shift poorly in the smaller cogs. The [email protected] der. will not rub and will shift better, go with the long cage.

That's exactly the problem. lived with it for 4 years. Then I heard about the sram and the new trigger shifters and I think that's the way to go. thanks

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Whafe

· #9 · Jul 28, 2004

I have SRAM XO, works great, in the small time have used it. Have the XO grip shifts, these work great also............Oh and it looks trick. We are all tossers, cant forget the asthetics...........

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nalby

Discussion Starter · #10 · Aug 1, 2004

nalby said:
I'm looking to get a new rear deraillier. Right now I have xtr, but am thinking of getting either x.9 or x.0. Any opinions would be helpful. also which cage to get long or med.
I have a 2000 Ellsworth Truth full xtr 11-34 cassette. thanks in advance

Well I did it. I put on a XO (very nice looking) and X.9 triggers, shifts as good or better than the XTR but no ghost shifting and I think i like the 1:1 triggers better than shimano's

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osokolo

· #11 · Aug 2, 2004

what are these conditions

steve3 said:
Love my X9's. They work under conditions shimaano wouldn't.

where sram works and shimano doesnt?

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osokolo

· #12 · Aug 2, 2004

i;ve never used XT components

steve3 said:
Well, there are several conditions. Primarily, the SRAM is very tolerant of adjustment variances. Next, by far, the system isn't affected by clogged cables. I used to have a problem where the moment I'd get muddy cables on my Shitmano, the derailleur wouldn't upshift until a long time later. The downshifts would get progressively harder and harder. I'd end up going two gears at a time. On my first ride, I submerged my bike higher than my hubs in a muddy puddle and it kept on shifting without skipping a beat or mishifting. I was amazed.

SRAM doesn't ghost shift. Another great benefit is the downshifting under power. So easy and hasn't skipped a beat.

By comparison, XT feels cheap and willowy (even the new stuff). SRAM feels like a precise machine. The shifts drop so firmly and quickly. The feel at the levers is fantastic.

so i really can;t compare... i've been using XTR forever, currently on 952 line... didn't like 960.

once setup properly, everything works without glitches... i like the fact that i can upshift 2 gears at the time if i need it... no ghost shifting either...

had shimano ultegra components completely stuffed in mud for 20 kms of the 60kms cyclocross race... not a single missed shift...

i am sure sram 9 and X0 are great, but i couldnt find enough reasons to switch to X0...

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osokolo

· #13 · Aug 2, 2004

i am also using

steve3 said:
There is very little difference, if any between XT and XTR. The main difference one might feel is at the shifters (ball bearings) and at the chainrings. Otherwise, XTR and XT is the same (XTR stands for XT Race). The funny thing is in Europe, I see pics of top 5 racers using XT and not XTR all the time.

When it comes time to change anything over, try out SRAM at a shop and see what you think. The levers are great and more intuitive than Shitmano. They are easy to use right away.

AS far as the mud goes, I have mud with a lot of sand, so the silica tends to get into everything, using water at the carrier. It sucks. So far SRAM has been impervious.

All the best

shimano flightdeck computer... it integrates with 952 shifters nicely... if i switch to sram X0, i am losing the computer, and i like it's virtual cadence feature (i know i can get it with other brand names too)

if and when sram comes out with rapid fire shifters, i may consider it, don't like grip shifters... tried them and disliked them...

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osokolo

· #14 · Aug 2, 2004

yes, but no X0 triggers yet? right?

steve3 said:
SRAM does have the triggers out. It's been a while now.

I absolutely love them. They feel so good and are intuitive. Much sharper than Shitmano. The shifting is faster than XTR.

one would have to use X9 triggers with X0 rear. am i missing something here?

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Little Frog

· #15 · Aug 2, 2004

Speedgoat!

www.Speedgoat.com

Speedgoat makes a custom derailleur hanger for Ellsworth. Only about $20.
It is a bit longer than the standard Ellsworth hanger and helps a ton.
I have one installed on my Truth.

It is always good to have a back-up hanger anyway. So install the Speedgoat hanger and have the Ellsworth hanger as back-up.

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