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Cliff Notes - what pick would you pick, DB Mason 1 or Pine Mountain 1

I am looking for a bike and it has to be under $800. I am really looking for some input! I want a plus bike as I am not getting any younger and on the long rides I like the idea of a plusher ride, more traction, and the other pros that come with a plus bike.

I have been riding my Forge Sawback 5XX for 10 years now and it has been very good to me (reliable). I upgraded the Dart 1 fork to a Manitou Minute Expert early on and for the riding I do, it has gotten my by and I have fun. It is kind of long in the tooth, beats me up on the rough stuff, and I just cannot justify upgrading it as it is pretty worn out/I am ready for something better so I am in the market for a new bike.

I ride almost exclusively at White Clay in Delaware. They are flowing single track trails with up to 150 feet of elevation change, not very rocky, a bit rooty in places.... just a fun place to ride. I like to go fast and hard on the downhills and my rides are usually about 15 miles. So I guess my riding is kind of XC/trail.

My budget is limited (daycare is a b*tch) and I am struggling badly to pick between the Diamodback Mason 1 and the Pine Mountain 1. The specs are pasted below. This review on the Pine Mountain 1 says it is a good bike for long flowing single track but it gets a little sketchy when really pushed due to the older school geometry. I have seen a few other reviews that say similar things. As I like to push it as hard as I can on the downhill areas for fun (but again my riding isn't anything too crazy) I worry it may not be the most fun bike based on this review? That being said, coming out of a Sawback 5XX I would imagine it is still a big improvement? The review was against bikes around $1,500-$2,000 but I can get it for under $800 new which may put it in a totally different perspective.

In general, I think Diamond Back makes some really fun bikes and are a good deal. I am thinking the Mason 1 could be a really good bike for me (and I can get it for about $100 less than the Pine Mountain 1) but the specs are lower and I am really worried I will quickly want to upgrade the coil Suntour XCR fork. I think I can live with the Deore 10 speed and mechanical brakes though. Do you think the Mason 1 would be a better bike for my riding or the higher end specs of the Pine Mountain 1 would suit me better? I do not want to get a used bike and nothing at the LBS will come close to these two bikes for the price so please focus on the two bikes listed or something else you are aware of that is possibly even better at my price point. $800 is my absolute maximum. Thanks for any input!

Pine Mountain 1 Specs:

Frame - Series 2 Double Butted CrMo, 27.5+ Wheels, Boost 141x9mm Open Dropout, 73mm Threaded BB
Fork - RockShox Recon RL 27.5+, 120mm Travel, Compression and Rebound Adjustment, Alloy Tapered Steerer, Solo Air Spring, 110x15mm Boost Spacing, Maxle Lite, 51mm Offset
Rims - Marin Aluminum Double Wall, 38mm Inner, Pinned Joint, Disc Specific, Tubeless Compatible
Hub Rear - Joytech, 141x9mm, 6-Bolt Disc, 32H
Hub Front - Joytech, 110x15mm, 6-Bolt Disc, 32H
Spokes - 14g Black Stainless Steel
Tires - Vee Tire, Crown Gem 27.5x2.8", Dual Control Compound, Folding Bead, Tubeless Compatible
Derailleur Rear - Shimano SLX GS Shadow Plus 11-Speed
Derailleur Front - - - -
Shift Lever - Shimano SLX Deore 1x11 Speed
Crankset - Marin Forged Alloy 1x11, Hollow Spindle, Direct Mount Steel Forged Narrow-Wide 30T Chainring, Boost Spacing
Bottom Bracket - External Sealed Cartridge Bearings
Chain - KMC X11L
Cassette - SunRace 11-Speed, 11-42T
Brakes Front - Shimano MT501 Hydraulic Disc, 180mm Rotor
Brakes Rear - Shimano MT501 Hydraulic Disc, 160mm Rotor
Brake Levers - Shimano MT501 Hydraulic
Handlebar - Marin Mini-Riser, 6061 Double Butted Aluminum, 15mm Rise, 780mm Width, 4° Up, 9° Back
Stem - Marin 3D Forged Alloy, 60mm
Grips - Marin Single Clamp Locking
Headset - FSA Orbit ITA, Sealed Cartridge Bearings, 1 1/8" x 1 1/2"
Seatpost - Marin Alloy Light
Saddle - Marin MTB
Pedals - Nylon Platform

DB Mason 1 Specs:

Frame Mason 27.5" Plus 6061-T6 Weapons Grade Aluminum w/ Double Butted Formed Top Tube, Down Tube, Seatstays, Tapered Head Tube, ISCG-05 Tabs, 9mm Boost Dropouts, w/ Replaceable Hanger
Fork SR Suntour XCR34 27.5"+ Suspension Fork, 120mm Travel, Coil Spring, 6061 Forged Alloy Crown, Alloy Tapered Steerer Tube, 34mm Stanchions, 110x15mm Thru-axle
Headset FSA NO.57, Sealed Cartridge for Tapered Headtube
Cranks Alloy Arm w/ 30T Steel "Narrow Wide" Single Ring
Sprocket 30 Tooth Steel
Bottom Bracket Sealed Cartridge
Rear Derailleur Shimano Deore M6000 Shadow Plus, 10 Speed
Shifter Shimano Deore M6000, 10 Speed
Cogset Shimano HG500, 10 Speed, 11-42T
Chain KMC X10, 10 Speed
Front Hub 32h Alloy, Boost 110x15mm, w/ CNC Disc Mount
Rear Hub 32h Alloy, 10mm QR, Cassette w/ CNC Disc Mount, 141mm
Spokes 14g Stainless Steel
Rims Diamondback MD35 35mm Doublewall, 32h
Tires Vee Rubber Bulldozer, 27.5x3.0 Tires
Brakes Tektro Aries Mechanical Disc, w/ 180mm Front / 160mm Rear Rotors
Brake Levers Tektro 2 Finger Alloy Linear w/ Reach Adjust
Pedals DB4L Alloy w/ Molded Traction Pins
Handlebar DB35 Alloy, 760mm Wide, 15mm Rise, 35mm Bar Bore
Grips DB "Flanged" 135mm Silicone
Stem DB35 Alloy, 60mm, 35mm Bar Bore
Seat DB Race M-series Saddle
Seatpost DB Alloy Micro Adjust, 30.9mm
Extras Tool Kit

Forge Sawback 5XX

Frame: 6061 Double-Butted Aluminum, Hydroformed Gusset, With Disc and Rack/ Fender Mounts
Front Suspension: Upgraded to Manitou Minute Expert 100MM
Brake Set: AVID BB-5 Mechanical Disc. Brake Levers: Tektro
Saddle: WTB Pure V Sport
Seat Post: Alloy 30.8X350Mm, Adjust With Quick Release
Handlebar: Mtb Alloy 600Mm
Stem: Forge - Alloy 105Mm
Grips: WTB Trail
Speed: 27
Shifters: SHIMANO Deore
Front Derailleur: SHIMANO Alivio
Rear Derailleur: SHIMANO Deore
Crankset: Truvativ Isoflow Aluminum Triple 22/32/42T
Bottom Bracket: VP Sealed Cartridge
Cassete: Sram Pg950, 34-11T, 9 Speed
Chain: SHIMANO Hg73
Pedals: Alloy Platform
Rims: WTB Speeddisc 32H
Hubs: Joytech Alloy Qr Disc 32H
Spokes: 14g stainless steel
Tires: Its Ninja 26X2.1"

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Between the two bike options given, the Pine Mountain 1 has the far superior component selection.

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Discussion Starter · #6 ·
Resurrecting old thread, what did you end up buying? I'm looking at a Pine Mountain 1, or a Giant Stance 2. Can't decide if I need the FS to keep my knees from hurting too much.
I waited a day too long. Went to get the Pine Mountain and they were sold out! I was so dissapointed. I like my Mason but the XCR fork sucks when it is cold out. : ( LookING for a good deal on a Manitou.
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