Got them on Thursday and started paying with them today. Nothing very glam looking, rether reserved but that's ok. I popped in the rim strip, very nice. I them put on my Exi-2.3's. OMG my thums hurt! Very tight indeed. I had a tube in there since I dodn't have a compressor. THis morning I woke up motivated and removed the Exi's and got out my Lil' Alberts and the Bontrager sealant. I went to the shop where I work to use the compressor. 1 hr later no luck. The tires would not hook up. I was very frustrated. I then took some Cheap steel beaded WTB Motoraptors off the wall and tried them out. Immediate success. The good part is that I am now set up. The bad part is that I have a half assed steel beeded set of tires. Glad they were cheap. All else works fine with the wheels. I just need to sell my others now.