I think most on here don't consider the Forge to be a "department store" bike (IE: Murray, Huffy, Schwinns, etc. of the world), so far the build quality and components are well beyond Dept. Store bikes. In fact compared to LBS bikes prices in this price range, it's almost like getting a $200 parts upgrade. Drawback is no "free" setup, and no "free" tuneup that most Local Bike Shops have. And I feel that's where the price-point is coming in. (Trading service for better parts).JimC. said:if you use Google you'll get your answer, and check the post in "Beginners" forum about department store bikes - it's a STICKY near the top.
Good luck, Jim.
Since when is Manitou a "No Name Fork"?!?!?!?!?!?JimC. said:with a no name fork and stated performance "for dirt trails and refined bike paths" you aren't getting a real mountain bike with a fork that works. The frame may be OK as some of the parts might be, but the bike is the sum of the parts and many of them are decidedly below entry level for performance...but hey, if it works out, and I hope it does, good stuff.
I personally believe that a good frame and fork are necessary to be the building blocks for a good ride. Sooner or later you need a good fork, unless it's a crusier for you.
My Quote is from the manufactures website... not Target, which I admit, is not the best place for advice on a Bike. Like I said, it's a trade-off in this case.JimC. said:http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html?ie=UTF8&frombrowse=1&asin=B000E3YYJG
The Forge Sawback 5xx offers an awesome ride on both dirt trails and refined bike paths. Front suspension, dual disk brakes and a lightweight aluminum frame with dual-beam support provide superb stability, control, power and responsiveness. The hardtail design helps you take on any climb with a strong, durable, rigid body structure. Dependable, versatile and stylish, the Forge Sawback 5xx is perfect for trails, dirt roads or bike paths.
Hmmnnnnnnn, one must wonder what "dual beam support" means.
Read up on their website, I have no idea where your specs came from.
I'm not about to enter into a p1ssing contest as you obviously are biased as an owner.
Hope you enjoy it.