This is a x-post from the All Mountain and obviously posting in the Pivot section may be helpful.
Looking for input about my stem length and height on my first "All Mountain". It's only been 3 good rides. The specs....
Medium Pivot 5.7 carbon
5'10" with 32" inseam
Stem: Thomson X4 70mm 0 rise
Post: 125mm Reverb (obviously not a setback post)
Bar: Whisky 740mm with 15mm rise
Fork: Revelation World Cup 150mm
I chose the above based largely on reading about short stem/wide bar & checking local riders' positions with similar longer travel bikes in my size and comparing to Pivot's geometry. Fork and rear shock sag are dialed in perfectly and I've tweaked things such as bar rotation and saddle positioning.
Everyone local said I'd be crazy for putting anything longer than 70mm with a wide bar. Doing a search on mtbr shows the same theory. So far the wide bars and short stem are perfect when the Reverb is dropped and the trail goes down or gets twisty. Unfortunately I feel cramped while climbing when the Reverb is extended.
Each ride I take a spacer out and the lower bar position feels good while climbing; the best feel thus far is not having any spacers under the stem. This gives me more of a stretched out climbing position with the post fully extended, but while cruising on the flats it feels like the TT is too short and the position too low. Without a dropper post the bike would feel totally unrideable going downhill. So far it's not very comfy and reclined as I thought an all-mountain bike should be. When I put a few spacers back on the climbing suffers dramatically with front end wandering and not a lot of power from the quads, but it's more comfy.
Just put a 90mm 7degree stem on to test fit, and played with spacers, and although I can't ride it (late night) the comfort feels much better sitting on the bike like my large-sized Mojo carbon from years back, but I'm wondering if I'd lose the great flickable traits when the trail pointed down and got twisty.
Is this a matter of getting used to a very slack trail bike and completely different setup, or do you all-mountain riders see something I don't in terms of setup? Will I have to decide whether it's set up as a trail/cornering/jumping bike or more of a general all-around bike that climbs a bit better?
Looking for input about my stem length and height on my first "All Mountain". It's only been 3 good rides. The specs....
Medium Pivot 5.7 carbon
5'10" with 32" inseam
Stem: Thomson X4 70mm 0 rise
Post: 125mm Reverb (obviously not a setback post)
Bar: Whisky 740mm with 15mm rise
Fork: Revelation World Cup 150mm
I chose the above based largely on reading about short stem/wide bar & checking local riders' positions with similar longer travel bikes in my size and comparing to Pivot's geometry. Fork and rear shock sag are dialed in perfectly and I've tweaked things such as bar rotation and saddle positioning.
Everyone local said I'd be crazy for putting anything longer than 70mm with a wide bar. Doing a search on mtbr shows the same theory. So far the wide bars and short stem are perfect when the Reverb is dropped and the trail goes down or gets twisty. Unfortunately I feel cramped while climbing when the Reverb is extended.
Each ride I take a spacer out and the lower bar position feels good while climbing; the best feel thus far is not having any spacers under the stem. This gives me more of a stretched out climbing position with the post fully extended, but while cruising on the flats it feels like the TT is too short and the position too low. Without a dropper post the bike would feel totally unrideable going downhill. So far it's not very comfy and reclined as I thought an all-mountain bike should be. When I put a few spacers back on the climbing suffers dramatically with front end wandering and not a lot of power from the quads, but it's more comfy.
Just put a 90mm 7degree stem on to test fit, and played with spacers, and although I can't ride it (late night) the comfort feels much better sitting on the bike like my large-sized Mojo carbon from years back, but I'm wondering if I'd lose the great flickable traits when the trail pointed down and got twisty.
Is this a matter of getting used to a very slack trail bike and completely different setup, or do you all-mountain riders see something I don't in terms of setup? Will I have to decide whether it's set up as a trail/cornering/jumping bike or more of a general all-around bike that climbs a bit better?