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Wow..., Amazing, after two years changing the Shock position and using screaming colour paintings, Specialized is back to the 2006 S-Works Shock Position and Black colour, my 2006 Stumpy S-Works is no more obsolete.

Thank you, Specialized.
 

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Looks very nice, but giving it 140mm of travel seems a little too much for me, especially when the Enduro has 150mm. I wonder when tested if it gets the same 10/10 rating that the current model got in many reviews including MBR. That bike will be very hard to beat.
The claimed weight is a little less than the outgoing model but with an extra 20mm travel front and rear, incredible. I suppose parts are getting lighter all the time.
Apart from the shock position the bike looks very similar to the current model, and there are advantages to both shock positions.
I would say that the 140mm is too much for your average stumpy rider, unless you ride very technical rocky stuff. It will probably go downhill better but suffer on the climbs in comparison. Maybe they should have gone 130mm, where it would sit between the epic and enduro. I wonder how much it will be? At the end of the day, they have to change things to keep selling bikes and I'm sure it will sell well, as they really do make the best bikes.
I heard some time ago that Fox were going to manufacture the shocks for Specialized, after quality control problems with the previous factories. I am surpised that they get the Fox logo though as Specialized are the designers and patent holders, maybe that was Fox's terms.
 

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I am surpised that they get the Fox logo though as Specialized are the designers and patent holders, maybe that was Fox's terms.
It's also brand recognition and the rise in perceived value.

Is this another proprietary shock, so you're at Spec's mercy if there are problems, along with no alternatives if you're not happy with the ride and tuning options, and no one to turn to when they stop making this line (in three years, or course)?

Come on, there's no real need to turn over the lines so often.
 

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According to the article the retail 2010 S-Works Stumpjumper FSR bike will have a 44/32/22 Specialized S-Works chainset as standard.

"FACT CRANK
As with last year's Epic, the 2010 Stumpy has nearly the same integrated FACT carbon crank with oversized bottom bracket spindle and bearings integrated into the frame. Specialized says this is 97 grams lighter than a Shimano XTR and still 10% stiffer. The only difference is in the rings, with 22, 32, 44 gearing. And, yes, this will still be a triple, even with the addition of SRAM XX (there's an adapter for this bb if you'd prefer to run the SRAM double instead).

Yes, you get the same crank with the S-Works Epic
Sloan explains that with any new system, and with the tradition of triples on trail bikes, Specialized would rather err on the side of too much gearing people don't use than popping their kneecaps on climbs. And, yes, he's already heard from dealers in Europe who want 2×10 instead and Specialized says it'll wait and see where the market goes beyond next year with XX."
Bicycling.com
 

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Jerk_Chicken said:
It's also brand recognition and the rise in perceived value.

Is this another proprietary shock, so you're at Spec's mercy if there are problems, along with no alternatives if you're not happy with the ride and tuning options, and no one to turn to when they stop making this line (in three years, or course)?

Come on, there's no real need to turn over the lines so often.
Agreed.

I hope Specialized has learned a valuable lesson with the E-150, and to a lesser extent, the AFR fiasco. Loyal customers have only so much patience before becoming feed up and then moving over to another brand.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed with the 2010 Enduro line. I sure hope to see some Fox or RS suspension parts on these babies!
 

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Roval Control SL?

I am no expert but, 140mm travel for a trail seems a tad to much to me.

But what I found more strange is that the are speccing sub 1400 gram xc race wheels on a 140mm bike (judging by the pictures). I have these wheels on my epic and get nervous going over a big root or hoping on to a curb with them (although have never had any problems with the wheels). I don't know how well they could handle the abuse a 140mm travel bike is supposed to take, but I guess they had to cut weight so that they could brag about a 22.5 pound 140m trave bike.
 

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The test models were not running XX gear, hence 3 chain rings ;)
Oh. I guess they wouldn't do a 20 speed XX group on the stumpy, or would they ? Seems pretty dumb to do that since its supposed to be a trail bike.
 

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Personally I think the old (08/09) stumpy looked better - the shock and shock mount under top tube looks far less elegant than the old mount in front of seat tube - nonetheless article certainly makes credible case for weight savings and less reinforcement from new position (yes I am probably a little biased in that I ride an 08)

I also wonder whether the purpose of this bike is being lost by going to 140mm - I don't think Ned Overend's quote in the video about being the best bike for the trails most people ride most often applies anymore. People wanting trail bikes don't "need" 140mm and most probably don't want it either - I certainly struggle a little with slack angles and slow response of the 08 stumpy - even slacker and slower then the epic becomes an obviously better alternative for the trails I ride. For those needing/wanting 140mm a beefier bike like Enduro (in whatever 2010 incarnation) still seems a better option.

Obviously much speculation and possible to be proven wrong when the new bikes are widely available for testing but, for now, put me down as highly skeptical.
 

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So the current Stumpy only lasted 2 years. Not sure why a redesign was necessary. I guess Specialized is assuming that we all need the newest version and will have to switch to the latest and greatest. No thanks I've only had my 09 for a few months and it is a fine machine.
 

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I do like the look of 08/09 SJ, but I have to respectfully disagree with those saying 140mm is too much. I ride a lot of different AZ trails and my 07 stumpy is barely enough for some of them, especially Sedona. I am not going to buy an AM bike and ride it 10 miles up the hill just so I can drop off some of the steps or ledges that come up every once in a while. If the suspension is properly controlled, 140mm should not feel that much different than 120mm, as long as the bike is agile and responsive.
 

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about bloomin' time! thanks for the link Vaccinatie

like where Spesh are going with the new design, but still glad i bought an 09 with its lower centre of gravity + ltd 2 year production run.

glad to see two things that slightly annoyed me about my 09 have been resolved: the new frame has the larger BB size and can use the SW crankset with its bigger bearings & the new clunk-free futureshock is matte black so no call for silly white grips or saddles.

like the frames new headtube moulding but don't like the S crest on the front + silver painted areas, hope that ziptie on the brain hose is just on the demo bike, hate those POS smarty pedals.
 

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the new clunk-free futureshock is matte black so no call for silly white grips or saddles.


I don't think the new futureshock will be clunk free, it has to have that resistance to work. I often ride my friends 09 Epic S Works and the clunk, (which feels more like a pop to me) is more noticeable both front and rear than on my S Works Stumpy, even with the mini brain. I think the brain is pretty much the same on the new Stumpy just with Fox written on it but same design.
I am very happy with my current S Works Stumpy but wouldn't rule out the new one when the time comes for a change, but for me I would probably go back to 100mm of travel, eg Epic rather than go to 140mm and suffer with the climbing.
I also heard a rumour that all AFR shocks will be manufactured by Fox, so any replacement ones for 08/09's could well be built by them when current stocks run out. The design is obviously Specialized but if you pay right people to put them together that must make sense.I imagine that Specialized chose the wrong factory first time round, trying to save money.
 

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I'll wait to see the aluminum version 95% of people are intrested in before I pass judgment. Or better yet maybe RIDE IT before I make any complaints.
 

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terrible said:
I'll wait to see the aluminum version 95% of people are intrested in before I pass judgment. Or better yet maybe RIDE IT before I make any complaints.
me too... both. ;)
 
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