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I got to service my BB because it has been awhile and it squeaks after an hour of riding. I talked to a mechanic about servicing the BB myself and he recommended that I get the Park Tool Crank Puller for Square Taper Cranks CCP-22 and the Park Tool Bottom Bracket Tool BBT-22. Here are the links:

From what I've gather, I think I have a cartridge bearing type bottom bracket. So I think this is the instruction I need to follow: http://parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=94 :confused:

Can you guys please make sure that I have the right tools and service instructions for my BB? I'm including pictures of the BB. Thank you in advance.
 

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Thanks alexrex20. Saw your reply and serviced the bb today. It's a sealed cartridge so I can't service it. The mechanic said I have to buy a new one. I'm trying to decide either to replace the bb with the same type or upgrade to an external bb and a new cranksets. I'd like to spend at most $80 for a bb and crankset. Can you guy recommend something? Let me know if I'm being too unrealistic with $80. Thanks.
 

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Thanks Stupendous Man and mntlion. I thought about both options and going with the an external bb and new cranksets would cost $50 more than just getting another sealed cartridge bb since I've already bought the tools for the current bb. I do plan to build an am ht (Ragley Blue Pig) within six months with SLX double crankset. I just hate owning the Park Tool Crank Puller for Square Taper Cranks CCP-22 and the Park Tool Bottom Bracket Tool BBT-22 without any purpose once I get my new bike. I'll probably just buy a replacement for now.
 

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You can keep 'em and have them if the need ever arises or you can sell 'em and recoup a bit of your money. I'd keep 'em...
 

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Dont ever sell your tools! :nono:

If it were me, I would get the new crankset with outboard bearings, and the tool to install & remove them. I would not buy the tools you need to remove your current cranks. Instead I would ask a buddy who has the tools, or the bike shop to remove them. If you dont have a relationship with your LBS, then you could buy the new crankset and tool from them, and they may remove the current set for you.

In the long run, I think you would be better off with the external BB. It seems that is the direction all bikes are taking.
 

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Thank you both for the suggestions. I wouldn't mind getting an external bb with a new crankset and learning how to install it. But that means spending $50 more for a bike that I'll be selling in about six months once I build my new ht. So I'd rather save the $50 for my new bike. I'm cheap as you can tell. :D

About replacement of the current bb sized 68 x 110.5mm. The closest I could find is the Shimano UN54 Bottom Bracket 68 x 110mm. Can I get the Shimano's or do I need to find a 110.5mm one? Plus, I notice the Shimano's cup is plastic on the non-drive side, whereas mine is all metal. Here's the link to the Shimano's: http://www.rei.com/product/753545

On a side note, there's a good sale for Park Tools so I want to get a couple of things for future installations of SLX cranksets with bb, and SRAM/Shimano cassette. Are these tools right for the job?
 

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If you're "cheap" as you say, then have you attempted to heavily grease the BB and reinstall it to the proper torque? A squeak may be coming from nearly anywhere on the bike and be mistaken quite easily for coming from somewhere else. I'd say make sure you check all the bolts on the bike for tightness (that includes the seatpost clamp) and give it another ride. You might be able to nurse the parts along if you keep them tight.

*edit: I like the FR-5G a little better than the FR-5 for cassettes, and the BBT-9 is the correct tool for external BBs. The SLX cranks is probably the best value in cranks and worth saving a little longer for*
 

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On a side note, there's a good sale for Park Tools so I want to get a couple of things for future installations of SLX cranksets with bb, and SRAM/Shimano cassette. Are these tools right for the job?
You need the FR-5G -or- the FR-5 to remove and install the cassette, not both. The BBT-9 will work to install the external BB. Consider the BBT-19 instead if you're the type of buy who likes to use a torque wrench to make sure everything is to spec.
 

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Thanks guys. I will attempt to heavily grease the old bb and see what happens. I do think it's the bb that makes squeaky noise because it only squeaks after 1 hour into the riding. I've tried to keep everything still while just moving the the crankset is that's the sound I hear. But I'll try it just to see.

As for the tools, I'll go with the FR-5G and the BBT-9 because it has the 8 sided stud for Shimano cranksets. If I go with the BBT-19, I still have to buy the BBT-9. And the CN-10 cable cutter too... unless you guys can recommend another cable cutter. I tried the hardware stores and haven't found anything comparable in the same price range.

Stupendous Man, I found an instruction to make your own chain whip. Plus I have a couple of old chains lying around for reuse.

http://www.socaltrailriders.org/forum/workshop/22646-homemade-chain-whip.html

I just want to say thanks a lot guys for helping me out. It makes the process much easier.
 

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As for the tools, I'll go with the FR-5G and the BBT-9 because it has the 8 sided stud for Shimano cranksets. If I go with the BBT-19, I still have to buy the BBT-9.
"8 sided stud"? Do you mean the round plastic tool on the end of the BBT-9? Every Shimano (outboard BB) crankset I have bought included the tool required to load the crankarm against the bearings.

While it doesn't make much difference in time, I have found the BBT-19 to be a lot more ergo to use than the -9. I find that if the bike is in a stand with the BB at waist/chest level, I can't put a lot of torque on the -9 without it wanting to pop off the BB and then the tool has a limited arc of rotation due to the chainstays. With the -19 the tool stays in place due to forward pressure, you can use as long as a lever as you want, and you can easily spin the BB off without interference. As others have said though, a big advantage is you can use a torque wrench to tighten it to spec (I never bother).
 

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"8 sided stud"? Do you mean the round plastic tool on the end of the BBT-9? Every Shimano (outboard BB) crankset I have bought included the tool required to load the crankarm against the bearings.
Yes, that's the one. In Shimano's installation instruction, the tool is TL-FC16. I've tried to find out whether the SLX cranksets come with the 8 sided stud tool or not, but no luck. Called Shimano and just got an un-ending automated voice. I'll call some lbs to find out. If it does come with the tool, then I'll definitely get the BBT-19. Thanks for the info btw.
 

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Yes, that's the one. In Shimano's installation instruction, the tool is TL-FC16. I've tried to find out whether the SLX cranksets come with the 8 sided stud tool or not, but no luck. Called Shimano and just got an un-ending automated voice. I'll call some lbs to find out. If it does come with the tool, then I'll definitely get the BBT-19. Thanks for the info btw.
Over the past couple years I've gotten them with two XT cranksets, one low-level Deore, and one SLX w/bash cranksets. I'm absolutely positive they come from Shimano with them. I'd send you one of my many spares if you wanted (would require a SASE).
 

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Sweet offer anotherbrian. I'll keep that in mind. I plan to buy the SLX w/ bash from CRC and some forums members have complained about CRC not including the tools. But I'll make sure they do now that I know it's included with the package.
 

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The retail package will include the tool. If you buy an OEM package (from ebay or online discount retailer) it will not. The OEM packages are shipped as part of bike builds that the retailer or builder decides to leave out or substitute something else. These are "gray market" parts, and are often shipped in plain packages without instructions and/or accessories.
 
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