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I see that Cambria has a sale on '09 Fox Vanilla R shocks... in 8.5X2.5, which is what I believe my Bullit is looking for.

Right now I'm running a Progressive 5th that's 8.75" i2i, and on compression the tire hits the frame ('04 straight seat tube). I'd like to run the shorter shock so I don't ruin the finish, frame, or tire by big hits.

For $150, should I go for the Van R?

Clay
 

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I think the old Bullit series, and the new one too, do much better with a piggyback shock. I think they need the tuning capability. A Van RC would be OK, but I really liked the air adjustable piggyback on most of the shocks I used on my Bullits in both air and coil versions. Oddly I think the DHX Air worked fairly decently on my Bullit as long as serious freeriding wasn't involved. I'm currently running a Vivid R2C coil on a Nomad right now, and it seems like it would be suited to the Bullit also, even though there's no quick air adjustment to the IFP in the piggyback.
 

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TNC: Thanks for the advice! It turns out there is a Fox DHX locally avaliable to me, and I'm headed to check it out tomorrow.

The Vanilla R that I was looking at was indeed a piggyback shock, but (as noted by the model name) it only had rebound adjustment (and spring pre-load, of course). I'm thinking the DHX is going to be much better for the riding I do.

Thanks,
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the LSC adjustment on the Van RC helps significantly for climbing, not sure where in the LSC range the stock Van R lies for compression damping, if it was somewhere in the middle I wouldn't mind using it on the Bullit.
 

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I didn't have it on my Bullit, but I do have a DSP Dueler on my Heckler. It is buttery smooth...many times I just don't feel like it's there. A bump I can feel with my fork goes completely unnoticed in the rear with the Dueler. If you are interested in a Dueler, you may want to wait a little while. After talking to the guys at DSP the other day, they are revamping their shocks (and will be offering forks as well) and relaunching them in a new line sometime this year.

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i've got already shipped and on the way. anyway, im told i need a 350lbs spring for my weight but they didnt have stock so i got a 400lbs instead. any comments about that? its my first time on a coil so i really hope it works out well...
 

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ongxw2005 said:
i've got already shipped and on the way. anyway, im told i need a 350lbs spring for my weight but they didnt have stock so i got a 400lbs instead. any comments about that? its my first time on a coil so i really hope it works out well...
How much do you weigh? With gear?

That's the biggest consideration for the spring rate. My 5th Element had a 400 pound spring, I weigh around 150, plus perhaps 20 pounds of gear (give or take). I felt the 400 was a little soft, and easy to bottom with the correct sag.

The DHX I'm looking at has a 500 pound spring, and I recall my old '01 frame had a 500 pound spring & seemed about right for me.

Good luck!
Clay
 

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cbc said:
How much do you weigh? With gear?

That's the biggest consideration for the spring rate. My 5th Element had a 400 pound spring, I weigh around 150, plus perhaps 20 pounds of gear (give or take). I felt the 400 was a little soft, and easy to bottom with the correct sag.

The DHX I'm looking at has a 500 pound spring, and I recall my old '01 frame had a 500 pound spring & seemed about right for me.

Good luck!
Clay
Wow, Clay...I weigh 185 w/no gear, and I had a 325lb. spring on my 5th E on my '99 and '03 Bullits back in the day. The SPV and heavily damped compression circuit on the 5th almost always requires a fairly light spring. I'm thinking your SPV and/or compression circuit had a problem or there was some air in the damper oil. I think the DHX coil shocks I had on my Bullits used a 450 or 500 spring for my weight.
 

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i guess i weigh somewhere ard 140-145lbs with gear included. would the 400lbs spring fit me? considering the design of the bullit pivot and the shock design...
 

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TNC:
Well, I had the "begin stroke" and "end stroke" adjusters about all the way open, and the air volume screwed in all the way, with 80 psi in the chamber. The shock felt great, but just seemed to bottom way easy. I *thought* the SPV was working; it was quite stiff until it opened. More pressure made the ride stiffer as well. It just seemed that once it opened, it would bottom really easily, like on a 2 foot drop! I suppose air in the damper oil could certainly cause this issue.

The DHX I'm looking at was supposedly rebuilt last year; hopefully it all works out! In the meantime, I'm going to ride my Super-8 this weekend (and I'm super stoked).

Clay
 
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