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my mk3 rear link became loose, too

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StabbedDawg

Discussion Starter · Jun 25, 2006

Ever since I got my mk3 team frame, the rear link became loose once but that time the bolts are loose.
After getting used to setting up my bike and realized that having the air pressure at 110psi for the 5th element, but by lowering just a bit made it so much more plush, so I was riding around for a few days. It started to feel so good and tried doing a drop on a little larger staircase. It felt okay, but later, I found that I might have had bottomed out on the rear. My Nixon Platinum at 110psi air pressure was very close to bottoming, too. Now I notice a little play on the rear, so I inspected all of the bolts and tightening them a little more. However, I still have little play. I inspected the hardware for the rearshock and noticed that the downsizer for the mount shaft was little swallen.

Is this when I need the tight tolent hardware?

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yogreg

· #2 · Jun 25, 2006

The tight tolerence kit from IH, is a larger diameter sleeve that goes directly throught the heim joints of the 5th Element. Looks identical to stock, but is just a hair larger.

Something I have done with my Team frame was to replace all the bolts with stronger larger head bolts. Gives you a little more to grab onto while tightening. Also some loc-tite does wonders.

Greg

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StabbedDawg

Discussion Starter · #3 · Jun 25, 2006

Thanks Greg,
It seems to be that my original sleeve look little out of shape, so I need to obtain new ones, so might as well get the tight tolerence one.

The play in only in the virtical motion, so I guess the problem is in the eyelet section.

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StabbedDawg

Discussion Starter · #4 · Jun 29, 2006

I found out that the play was coming from the bottom of the rearshock mount. I stick my finger in and pick up the rear wheel then I feel the bottom of the rear shock shows the looseness. This is caused by rearshock bottoming I think. I previously lower the rearshock air pressure to feel more plush, and it worked good but it bottomed out when I did a couple of drops. Should I replace the mount hardware and also get tight tolerance thing?

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yogreg

· #5 · Jun 29, 2006

StabbedDawg said:
I found out that the play was coming from the bottom of the rearshock mount. I stick my finger in and pick up the rear wheel then I feel the bottom of the rear shock shows the looseness. This is caused by rearshock bottoming I think. I previously lower the rearshock air pressure to feel more plush, and it worked good but it bottomed out when I did a couple of drops. Should I replace the mount hardware and also get tight tolerance thing?

to permently get ride of this play or movement...
First get some brand new mounting hardware from Iron Horse
Second get a new shock, a Fox or Rocco perhaps.

Greg

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broncbuster

· #6 · Jun 29, 2006

yogreg said:
to permently get ride of this play or movement...
First get some brand new mounting hardware from Iron Horse
Second get a new shock, a Fox or Rocco perhaps.

Greg

Which Fox shock would you suggest for the mkIII expert? Also what do you think about the Cloud Nine shocks?

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yogreg

· #7 · Jun 29, 2006

broncbuster said:
Which Fox shock would you suggest for the mkIII expert? Also what do you think about the Cloud Nine shocks?

Fox RP3 and run it in the open (no pro-pedal) position.
I have zero experience with the Cloud nine shocks. From info I have read on this board, those who use the Cane Creek shocks love them for all the right reasons.

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Acadian

· #8 · Jun 29, 2006

broncbuster said:
Which Fox shock would you suggest for the mkIII expert? Also what do you think about the Cloud Nine shocks?

I have a Push Fox AVA on mine and Love it!! But I'm sure an RP3 like YoGreg suggested would also be dandy! :thumbsup:

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StabbedDawg

Discussion Starter · #9 · Jun 30, 2006

Ultimately, like someone mentioned, Pushed RP3 for MKIII leverage curve might be a very good choice. My frined's RP3 on his MKIII comp seems to be working good (without any modification)
Where part do you think having problem? The eyelet hardware itself?

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StabbedDawg

Discussion Starter · #10 · Jun 30, 2006 (Edited)

How do you folks think Rockshox Peal would work for me? It seems to be very adjustable with the dials for wider range of settings.
My 5th seems won't be able to adjusted for me achieving both plush and not bottoming.
Acadian, were you able to test that MKIII with Pearl? Now that you have AVA, I guess it was not that good?

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StabbedDawg

Discussion Starter · #11 · Jun 30, 2006

yogreg said:
The tight tolerence kit from IH, is a larger diameter sleeve that goes directly throught the heim joints of the 5th Element. Looks identical to stock, but is just a hair larger.

Something I have done with my Team frame was to replace all the bolts with stronger larger head bolts. Gives you a little more to grab onto while tightening. Also some loc-tite does wonders.

Greg

Now I get it, so the moving eyelet parts are taken away and replaced with the larger sleeve. I certainly need that.

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yogreg

· #12 · Jun 30, 2006

As soon as I get my hands on a Fox shock (probably an RP23) it is going straight to PUSH for the overhaul and custom tune. PUSH'ed stuff is the real deal. I have used their "works" shocks on other bikes to achieve suspension Nirvana.

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StabbedDawg

Discussion Starter · #13 · Jun 30, 2006

yogreg said:
As soon as I get my hands on a Fox shock (probably an RP23) it is going straight to PUSH for the overhaul and custom tune. PUSH'ed stuff is the real deal. I have used their "works" shocks on other bikes to achieve suspension Nirvana.

It is too bad that the Japanese distributor of Fox is so narrow minded for like having Push work on the Japanese distributed Fox products. I could get the shock in Japan and send it to Push but then if something happens, the distributor would never work on the shock.

I would probably have to get two shocks so if one breaks then use the spare and send the broken one to Push again. It is very costly. That is the reason why I'm wodering if Pearl would be adjustable enough with outside controls to match MK3.

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