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So, I meet up with a new group of riding people on Sat and it's warming up nicely. I'm really pumped for the ride. The trails are not highly technical, so I'm expecting a fast ride.
Plus, the group is mostly roadies doing the MTB thing off season.
We get about a mile into the ride and I'm negotiating a tricky little up, sharp curve to the left around a tree, down, then curve to the right.
I've done it a million times but it's still tricky.
I'm entering the last little curve to the right and I'm riding thru some deep dry leaves.
All of a sudden, my bike stops and I see this 1 inch dia branch stuck between my rear wheel and derailleur.
"Oh ****" I think, not again.
I look at it and the der cage is bent into the spokes.
So I yank it out and bend the whole thing back to what I consider straight.
I figure, that's not so bad, I can still get a ride in.
So I ride for about 50 yds or so and then downshift.
Oops, major chain wrap between the cluster and spokes.
That's the end of my ride.
So I say bye to the group, and then carry my bike the mile or so back to the parking lot.
As luck would have it, I knew a few friends were gonna be on their way to ride a little later.
I call up one, who I know bought a spare XT Derailleur and asked her to bring it.
Well, she gets there in about a half hour, and I slap the new der on and adjust the cable tension as good as I can.
We go for another ride and it works for the most part but, but not perfectly.
I start getting pissed cuz it slips every time I put power down.
"I can't ride like this" I say.
"I'm going to Cycle Works to let John slap the der hanger alignment gage on it"
Back to the car, load the bike up, and off to let John have a go at it.
John is the greatest guy and bike wrench I've ever met.
I explain the situation to him and he says, "what again?"
"you want to wait or just leave it with me?"
"I'll wait if you don't mind working on it now"
Well, they weren 't that busy, and John likes me.
Maybe because I've dropped some serious coin there, but at least partially because we really get along and also ride motorcycles.
So he gets the bike on the stand and says "hey Lenny, look at this"
I bent the hanger mostly backwards, and a little inwards.
"Wow", I said. "I've never seen one bent that way".
"I have" says John.
So he proceeds to take a rubber mallet out and bang the ever lovin' piss out of the hanger to bend it forward.
I just couldn't watch him manhandle my bike like that.
Finally, he put the gage on it and gave it a few more tweaks in the other direction, and did some cable tension adj.
"Good as new" says John.
The only reason I'm telling this story is because I seem to have this happen to me much more often than anybody else I know.
One year, I went thru 3 derailleurs.
Every year, at least one bites the dust.
I was so psyched this year too, cuz till last Sat, I hadn't broken one, yet!
Do you think certain people's riding styles just attracts branches and stuff to the rear der?
Am I jinxed?
It just seems so weird.
Anybody else go thru an absurd # of derailleurs in a season.
What can I do?
Somebody please invent a light weight, completely enclosed, reliable shifting mechanism for bikes, PLEASE!!
Thanks for letting me vent.
Lenny
 

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brado1 said:
not to be a Troll, but ditch the gears and go singlespeed. problems solved...just a thought
Yeah, I have another bike that's gonna be my single speed.
I have all the parts, just not the time to do it.
Plus, I gotta have a geared bike to kick my friends ass on the climbs with.
Lenny
 

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Many times you just have to be aware of what you're riding over, and pay attention to the effort required to spin the cranks. A quick glance at your drivetrain after riding through loose branches and leaves can prevent that kind of stuff.
 

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brado1 said:
not to be a Troll, but ditch the gears and go singlespeed. problems solved...just a thought
I second this...you have one??...Go with two!! :D
 

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CircuitMan said:
I've gone through 3 too. I'm getting one of those Specialised hanger re-enforcers put on right now. Check out the Billet Specialties Hanger Banger (it sounds like the hanger is part of your problem.)
You got a link?
Is this a Specialized only product or does it fit on all hangers.
I searched for Billet Specialties and all I found was a hot rod custom part place.
What gives?
Lenny
 

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The areas in which I ride are littered with sticks/branches most of the time (eucalyptus and tropical ash get lots of blow down) and there's probably one derailleur or hanger destroyed every 4th or 5th ride in our group. After whipping out a spare hanger from my camelbak and fixing an apparantly ride ending derailleur hanger destruction on a night ride a month or so ago, more and more of my buddies are starting to carry spares too.

Second the suggestion about being aware of what you're riding over and learn to listen for the sound of something in your spokes and STOP PEDALING!
 

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My ex-boss from my bike shop days used to break r-der's on a regular basis. Very hard on equipment.

My advice like others is to go SS. Saves weight and money, and you can only ride in one gear at a time anyway. So I guess most bikes are really adjustable single speeds, waiting to become real single speeds.
 

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Trail maintenance

"Do you think certain people's riding styles just attracts branches and stuff to the rear der?
Am I jinxed?"

If you ride a lot on trails that are not maintained, or ride a lot early or late in the season, you are much more likely to ride over a stick and get it flipped up into your chain. Rolling your bike off trail even a short distance can also be hazardous. Found this one out personally.

I help maintain trails in my home area and spend time removing branches and sticks to prevent what happened to you (and me). My club invests significant hours in blowing leaves off the local trails. We do it mostly so the trails will dry faster, but it has the extra benefit of removing sticks.

Consider getting involved with trail work in your area. The derailuer you save could be your own.

Walt
 

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Not to be a Troll, but ditch the gears and go Rohloff. Problems solved... just a thought. ;)
 

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brado1 said:
not to be a Troll, but ditch the gears and go singlespeed. problems solved...just a thought
whats with this singlespeeding fad? really, dont know where you guys ride but where i ride singlespeeding would be impossible or a real torture.do you guys ride in the mountains or on the beach?..just a thought. :eek:
 

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FloridaFish said:
Here's what happened to my derailleur on Turkey Day. I always figured that the hanger was a sacrificial piece that was supposed to break before the derailleur got destroyed. Oh well.

http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=146700

and one pic
yeah, **** like thats happened to most every mtbiker...just have to know when to stop on time if you hear a branch hangin in there. nothing you can do if your going too fastthough...
i cant say from experience since ive never singlespeeded but it seems like although it might help avoid these types of problems its gonna create others in the sense that going up the mountain's no longer gonna be that doable and neither will clearing technical hills.
might give you a new perspective tho'
 

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jaco said:
whats with this singlespeeding fad? really, dont know where you guys ride but where i ride singlespeeding would be impossible or a real torture.do you guys ride in the mountains or on the beach?..just a thought. :eek:
I ride mountains, the only time friends (of equal ability) wait for me is on flat ground. :)

Breaking derailleurs is torture.
 

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just like walt dizzy (about the seasons) said i was going to say in the fall specifically (in the northeast anyway) there are tons and tons of sticks on the trails. You just need to watch out and if your bike i hard to pedal stop.
 
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