What is your bottom bracket height with the 27.5+ vs 26?Finished my 27.5+ summer setup and installed today .![]()
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I didn't measure with the 26 on but based on hub height of the 26 vs 27.5+ I lost maybe 5mm.What is your bottom bracket height with the 27.5+ vs 26?
Seems about right I finished mine today and went for a spin, if there is any lost BB height it's negligible. Rear wheel lost 1# 8oz, Front was 1# 4oz over my 26 setup. I also went with a boost Pike RCT3. It's big fun, and feels like a dragster compared to my 26" setup. I beat one 2 mile climb PR by 30 seconds over my 26" wheels without really trying and on another, Cat 4 climb, I matched my PR set on my 29" carbon Trek Superfly. I was about to sell the Mutz and buy a "Real" regular bike because I rode the Mutz right about 2000 miles over the last 14 months and was looking for a change; but, I initially wanted to build the Mutz like this in the first place so I figured I'd try it and if I didn't like just get a new frame and rear hub. I really like this though and if we head to the beach I still have my 4" stuff :thumbsup:I lost maybe 5mm.
150mm Pike?Seems about right I finished mine today and went for a spin, if there is any lost BB height it's negligible. Rear wheel lost 1# 8oz, Front was 1# 4oz over my 26 setup. I also went with a boost Pike RCT3. It's big fun, and feels like a dragster compared to my 26" setup. I beat one 2 mile climb PR by 30 seconds over my 26" wheels without really trying and on another, Cat 4 climb, I matched my PR set on my 29" carbon Trek Superfly. I was about to sell the Mutz and buy a "Real" regular bike because I rode the Mutz right about 2000 miles over the last 14 months and was looking for a change; but, I initially wanted to build the Mutz like this in the first place so I figured I'd try it and if I didn't like just get a new frame and rear hub. I really like this though and if we head to the beach I still have my 4" stuff :thumbsup:
No 140MM, Initially I was going to get a 140 to match the rear end. Then the Wren cam out in 150 so I thought about getting a 150 Pike. Then I read what you had to say about the 150 Wren feeling slightly choppered out and on some of the stuff I climb regularly I'm having enough trouble keeping the front end down with the Bluto so I opted for the 140 Pike and put on a slightly longer stem and that seemed to do the trick. This setup with the 9-44 out back and a 26 up front seems to be awesome. I'll probably switch to a 28 or 30 up front once I start venturing off my neighborhood loop; but, it has a lot of 16-18% stuff that kills my knees.150mm Pike?
I'm in Wenatchee. Do you hit Tiger much?No 140MM, Initially I was going to get a 140 to match the rear end. Then the Wren cam out in 150 so I thought about getting a 150 Pike. Then I read what you had to say about the 150 Wren feeling slightly choppered out and on some of the stuff I climb regularly I'm having enough trouble keeping the front end down with the Bluto so I opted for the 140 Pike and put on a slightly longer stem and that seemed to do the trick. This setup with the 9-44 out back and a 26 up front seems to be awesome. I'll probably switch to a 28 or 30 up front once I start venturing off my neighborhood loop; but, it has a lot of 16-18% stuff that kills my knees.
I'm in Seattle now (well, Snoqualmie actually) but I'm from the southwest (Prescott AZ, about 30 minutes from Sedona) I've taken the Mutz back a few times to ride the granite "trails" (really just white dots painted on rocks) in 26X4 form. I liked it, though pedal strikes were regular and brutal.
I thought about buying an Alpine+ and having two bikes; but, I just figured one would fall by the wayside and I'd have a $5500 dust collector in the garage at any given moment. I think dropping the coin on the plus set up whilst having the ability to go 4" whenever is the best use of resources. BTW YAY! Cane Creek for offering just the crown race for $10
Oddly, I've never been to Tiger, the parking lot is three miles from my house and I've never gone. One, I have to use the car to get there (hate that, because I don't know if you're familiar with how packed every single trail access lot gets over here, but it's nuts, if you're no there by 06:30, the spaces are all gone) and two I was worried about getting lost but I just bought a Garmin 520 so I can load the trail maps on it and go explore.I'm in Wenatchee. Do you hit Tiger much?
I just got back from a Southwest tour, hit Moab, Cortez, Sedona, and St George. The Mutz was solid, no complaints when clambering around on the rock, and downhill runs and air time were solid.
Yeah, pedal strikes are a pita, the Mutz has a lowish BB and wide Q, so it can make things tight.
The whole set or just 29+ up front? This is what i would like to try.Next up, mixed wheelsets![]()
Man, Tiger was a BLAST! Just did it a few weeks ago when I was down there on vacation...Oddly, I've never been to Tiger, the parking lot is three miles from my house and I've never gone. One, I have to use the car to get there (hate that, because I don't know if you're familiar with how packed every single trail access lot gets over here, but it's nuts, if you're no there by 06:30, the spaces are all gone) and two I was worried about getting lost but I just bought a Garmin 520 so I can load the trail maps on it and go explore.
Just up front, that's how I'm riding now, works great!The whole set or just 29+ up front? This is what i would like to try.
Do you have a build in mind? I am happy with my Nextie JFs so that is what I will probably get in 29. I have a new Hope 4 hub although I would rather use Onyx.Just up front, that's how I'm riding now, works great!
It depends on the tires, mine is 5mm lower with 27 + Trail Boss than 26 x 4 JJs. Less than a 1/4" = non issue.What is your bottom bracket height with the 27.5+ vs 26?
I like Scrapers, they're durable and not crazy expensive...like Onyx hubs.Do you have a build in mind? I am happy with my Nextie JFs so that is what I will probably get in 29. I have a new Hope 4 hub although I would rather use Onyx.