While I do like moustache bars on my commuter, I am less than thrilled with them off-road. For an alternative off-road bar, I prefer drops. I've got bikes set up with old Ibis drops and Wilderness Trail Bikes drops and my 'cross bike has Salsa Moto Ace bars. All work great for me.TN29'er said:I am in the process of building up a rigid 29'er and want to place mustache bars on it. Does anyone have any experience on them off road? If so what are your thoughts?
I'd have to agree. I don't have tons of miles on moustache bars, but I do have one bike that has them. I mostly commute with them on generally flat unpaved roads, and they work well for that. I find it a bit harder to loft the front end for some reason. There's lots of hand positions, but the brake levers are only accessible from the far-forward position (with my set up), which is fine for commuting, but less good for serious off-road.ssmike said:While I do like moustache bars on my commuter, I am less than thrilled with them off-road. For an alternative off-road bar, I prefer drops. I've got bikes set up with old Ibis drops and Wilderness Trail Bikes drops and my 'cross bike has Salsa Moto Ace bars. All work great for me.
With a wide bar and levers that mount further out (i.e. not on the bulge) my hands are pretty far out. When I normally like them in on long extended downhills that are not super technical. There's a great trail near me that drops about 2000 feet on single track and is never super steep or technical. Riding the flats is nice.bulC said:AH GRASSHOPPER, while that is true, your hands on the tops are closer together than they would be in the drops, so you have less leverage on the bar, just the opposite of what you'd want on downhills. And your hands aren't braced as well on the tops as they would be down in the drops. Same arguments that pretty much killed off "safety levers" on road bikes in the 80s.
Ya, I think moustaches could be good offroad as long as you used a shorter stem to compensate for the forward extension of the moustaches. What kind of shifters did you use? I have been wanting to set a bike up with these for a while now. Even have the bars ready to go. Can I use STI or should I use bar ends?mon t said:i just did 24 hours solo on two different rigid singlespeeds, a rivendell with m-staches and a 1985 ibis with drops.
as for your question re; the m-staches . . . .they were enjoyable. i have modified them with a small piece of PVC pipe mitre cut and epoxied up in the hooks of the m-staches at say the 2:00 and 10:00 position. this makes a very nice little ergo shelf. this course was not hilly, but very twisty with rock gardens and at no time did i feel the m-staches were any sort of detriment. on the contrary the multiple hand positions were just the ticket for those long hours. they work good, is what i am saying, for xc use. they look cool, too. they are a little weird in that you tend to get a sense of not really going all that fast on them - they just are sorta leisurely feeling - till you realize that that you are, in fact, humming along just fine. if you desire a more " aggro' feel these are not gonna give you that. they feel more sedate, or perhaps stately.
the drops are nice, too, with top mounts as the others said. i was using the nitto dirt drop on the old ibis and that is a fine bar. i ride these most of the time, do shorter xc races on them. they are better than anything, i think.
I think F-B's referring to road STI levers as with the moustache bars being road sized tubing, mountain levers won't fit. But I think road STI levers would work okay with the inward/downward movement of the shifting lever. The only issues I could imagine is STI shift levers don't work if the brake lever is being used. The mechanics of the shifting motion might induce slight braking motion on a moustache bar. Maybe, maybe not.mon t said:you know, that sti idea is an interesting one. could be they work alright !! be like those ultra new-school xtr's !!!
Seems to me that it would be a little awkward, although I've not tried it. Shifting would go from a side-to-side movement to a downward movement (a la new XTR). It's worth a try though just to see.Fillet-brazed said:Would STI shifters work ok do you think? Dont have any index bar cons, might have to go old school friction...
Interesting... I definitely have that "leisurely feeling" when I'm on pavement. On dirt it pretty much goes away. I don't have a bike computer on the bike and never ride the bikes with groups, so really don't know how fast I'm going. I might need to look into that.mon t said:they are a little weird in that you tend to get a sense of not really going all that fast on them - they just are sorta leisurely feeling - till you realize that that you are, in fact, humming along just fine.