Sounds like your not getting enough h2o.
Morrison - Mount Evans. https://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/8540340. Roughly 48 miles from low point to high (with a couple of very short descents mixed in). From below 6,000 feet to over 14,000. Certainly not a "weekly" ride, but a great once or twice a summer one!heythorp said:Sorry, I dont have any advice for you on the cramps.It seems like something you need to keep working on until you figure it out. It seems like you are going in the right direction as far as adding electrolytes. You might just have to keep adding until you figure it out. That is what training is for.
However, 5 continuos hours of climbing seems like a bit much.
My hill rides are 2.5 hours long and certainly that is not a continuous 2.5 hours long. My hill repeat days are 1-2 hours long.
Also where do you live to be able to do that much climbing at once? Me jealous!!!
REFUNDS/RACE CANCELLATIONchuckred said:
scooter2468 said:I'd suggest a couple of things that aren't specifically related to cramping, but may have some bearing on it coincidentally.
First, stop doing so much climbing. 5 hours roughly uninterrupted is waaay too much. You'd be much better off doing shorter, harder climbs with moderate 'endurance' days thrown in. Read C Carmichael's reports on how he went from NOT making the 9hr cutoff to doing it relatively easily.
Second, when you decide you must do a long climbing day, do NOT climb up Mt Evans. The impact of riding that hard at that elevation requires significantly more recovery than lesser workouts. Unless you're training for the Mt Evans HC, you don't need to climb higher than 12000ft, maybe even 11000ft. When working out at that high an altitude, your power drops off significantly, so you're not building strength, AND you aren't gaining any 'high altitude' adaptation unless you're also sleeping above 9000ft or so. On 08/15, your training at up 11000ft will be more than enough to allow you to function well at 12000ft for one day.
Lastly, rest more. Almost anyone can benefit from this tip, and unless you're under 30, your weekly climbing sufferfest is hurting, not helping, especially if you're not getting enough sleep.
Hater??? Nah, just someone who's made the mistake of overtraining too many times. At my age, and apparently at Chuck's age, it is very easy to overtrain, or more appropriately, under-rest.mcmurv said:Chuck:
Don't listen to these haters on too much training! One can never have too much training, especially climbing. (Usually, you can have too much of a good thing.) I do recommend steep and long climbs. Last weekend, I did 7 hours and 60 miles of climbing to get me to 15,000 feet of climbing in one session. Keep pushing hard man! As Art has said, "You gotta learn to suffer, then you gotta learn to love it."
Climb man! Climb higher!
Thanks - I've been taking Ca Mg supplements, but just looked at the dosage, and perhaps need to up it a bit.Sarah K said:You also may be suffering from a magnesium deficiency. Recent research suggests endurance athletes are setup for a mag deficiency because we sweat so much out. (And Endurolytes and most other electrolyte supplements don't supply enough magnesium - it's the most expensive electrolyte component).
PM me and if you are interested and I can suggest some good sources. Don't want to be accused of spamming the list tho