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Moving from the PNW to Arizona (Chandler area most likely)

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GF and I starting to look at homes now. Currently reside in Vancouver, Washington. I've ridden PMR on a rental a few times with my future brother-in-law, but it looks like Somo has the goods for my long travel 29er. Seems like I'll be closest to Somo and Hawes for my pre-dawn rides during the week, and tons of trails everywhere else.

Any thoughts or advice are welcome. I feel like I may be able to justify adding a short travel 29er to the quiver with this move. I'm used to climb trails to ride gravity stuff. Going to be a big adjustment on technical climbs, but looking forward to being able to ride all year.

I found a couple groups on FB, but if there are any particular ones I should join, let me know.
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Be sure you've spend some time there in July and August beforehand. That's a radical chance and it's important to realize how radical it is, if you can ride "all year" in this extreme environment, there's almost nowhere that is not "year-round" riding if you have the gear and the bike. There are lots of trail options, if you want to ride a short-travel 29er, there's a good deal of stuff in AZ where that works fine. Same with long travel. Hardtail? You'll see a few, but that's more like bike-packing or some of the raciest-racers that can stand the punishment.
I've actually ridden there July/August before. I'm one of those people that starts pedaling around 4 AM, while it's still undoubtably hot, I can manage a few miles before it gets blazing. Worst case, I take some weekend trips during the worst of it. I'll take heat over rain and snow any day though. With Flagstaff only a few hours away, not too worried.
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I've actually ridden there July/August before. I'm one of those people that starts pedaling around 4 AM, while it's still undoubtably hot, I can manage a few miles before it gets blazing. Worst case, I take some weekend trips during the worst of it. I'll take heat over rain and snow any day though. With Flagstaff only a few hours away, not too worried.
Until your sitting in a 2 hour backup on 17 Sunday night coming home with 10,000 other people from the valley who thought they'd escape the heat that weekend. 🤪 I like the heat, not the 120 mid day stuff, but give me a 90* morning ride and I'm happy. Your first summer you'll feel like dying. The second, you'll be totally fine and 60* in the winter will feel freezing.

I'm on a 140/130 trail bike and it covers most everything well here. If I could, I'd have a 160ish enduro for SoMo, Sedona, Mt Lemon. Then a 100ish XC/Downcoutry bike for XC miles.
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I am personally a bigger fan of Gold Canyon than Hawes, but if it is closer to you then there you go.

I would also agree with NorCal. All the riding I have done out there seems to want a 160+ bike or a 120 bike.

Having said that I have done most of my riding out there on a 135mm Coil Stumpy and it has handled everything just fine. Sedona and SoMo were better on a 160, Black Canyon better on a 120, etc.

But if you need an excuse to get a 120 bike then yes AZ demands a 120 bike.
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Sounds like I won't be too massively overbiked on my Spire. Worst case, I'll cross that bridge when I get there. Hoping to be officially a resident by April.
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Until your sitting in a 2 hour backup on 17 Sunday night coming home with 10,000 other people from the valley who thought they'd escape the heat that weekend. 🤪 I like the heat, not the 120 mid day stuff, but give me a 90* morning ride and I'm happy. Your first summer you'll feel like dying. The second, you'll be totally fine and 60* in the winter will feel freezing.

I'm on a 140/130 trail bike and it covers most everything well here. If I could, I'd have a 160ish enduro for SoMo, Sedona, Mt Lemon. Then a 100ish XC/Downcoutry bike for XC miles.
That's assuming you even managed to escape. Backups northbound start at least by noon on Friday. And all bets are off on holidays, or weekends with special events.

Plan to burn vacation mid-week to maintain some sanity if you need to go north.

As for bike choice, 'overbiked' isn't in my vocabulary. I ride my 2020 enduro on everything from the extreme (to me), to XC-like at Brown's Ranch. Don't got time/space to deal with a whole herd of bikes. Or the inevitable 'omg my bike was stolen from my garage!' post because I would have to start storing them out there.

Just ride and get that trail grin going and nothing else matters =)
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That's assuming you even managed to escape. Backups northbound start at least by noon on Friday. And all bets are off on holidays, or weekends with special events.

Plan to burn vacation mid-week to maintain some sanity if you need to go north.

As for bike choice, 'overbiked' isn't in my vocabulary. I ride my 2020 enduro on everything from the extreme (to me), to XC-like at Brown's Ranch. Don't got time/space to deal with a whole herd of bikes. Or the inevitable 'omg my bike was stolen from my garage!' post because I would have to start storing them out there.

Just ride and get that trail grin going and nothing else matters =)
That's no joke. I grew up in Gilbert in the 90's. Loved it at the time. Unbelievable how large the valley has grown since then though. Still has some great riding, and of all the big cities still pretty good, albeit a sea of suburbs and strip malls. I would die a happy man if I never had to drive the I17 ever again😆. Plan to be parked behind a fatality every Sunday below Sunset Point if you dare make the trip during summer, or good snow in Flag.

For bikes, I have a HD5 and a Ripley now. Used to only ever have a "big bike" as I'm a moto and trials guy, but I ride the Ripley about 75% of the time now unless it's National/Dells/some Sedona/Flag riding. Love having the two bike option though. They are speced the same so I can swap some parts which is quite valuable these days.
I've never had a issue running up the hill early on a weekend. I'm in Surprise, so I'm at Black Canyon is about 30 minutes. But heading up the hill at 5/6am has never been a traffic issue.
Sounds like I'll figure out the traffic patterns soon enough. Every house I like has a pool, which I don't particularly care for. Maybe I'll just have to accept drinking in it on hot days 🤷‍♂️
Sounds like I'll figure out the traffic patterns soon enough. Every house I like has a pool, which I don't particularly care for. Maybe I'll just have to accept drinking in it on hot days 🤷‍♂️
Interesting. I can't fathom living in weather like this without a pool.
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I live in chandler. The amount of places you can get within an hour is amazing. Browns ranch or McDowell, about 45-50min. Hawes or south mtn, about 30. Gold canyon maybe 45 or so. Great city with quick access to many different types of trails.
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Have you considered Ahwatukee instead of Chandler? Ride from you house to the trails of South Mountain and good streets to road ride if it is too hot for mtn biking. I don't know what you are looking for in a house but for Mountain Biking it is a good location. It has a Phoenix address but it is just a big subdivision. I only know because my daughter lives there. I live in Prescott so I'm not an expert on Phoenix riding.

If you live north of Phoenix good summer riding is not far in Prescott. It is sure nice not having to drive through the whole metro when you want to get to the cooler climate.

Good luck on your search and move.
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There’s no shortage of stuff to ride on your Spire. Most of my miles here are on a 120mm single speed hardtail, but I also have a 170mm full squish for bigger stuff in the area.

If you’re married to the idea of 1 bike, I’d go the 140-ish route like others have mentioned.
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Sounds like I'll figure out the traffic patterns soon enough. Every house I like has a pool, which I don't particularly care for. Maybe I'll just have to accept drinking in it on hot days 🤷‍♂️
We went one summer without a pool. That was one summer to much, had a pool put in that following fall. I love having a pool. I don’t use it during the mid day. However I come home from a morning ride and then jump in usually with my liners on. We put a TV on the patio, so now I sit in my pool and watch TV at night

It’s also worth saying that if you think that you’ll just put a pool in later, good luck. Most contractors are 6-12 months out and jobs are taking months to complete due to supply chain issues. Because of how busy it is, prices for pools have gone up as much as 50%.

Your lifestyle will change from the PNW. You’ll either learn to love dry weather, or you’ll spend all day inside your house.
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I have lived in So Cal, PNW (Bend), and Chandler. Im back in So Cal but I can say the riding in the Phoenix area is pretty amazing. It can be extremely technical to roller coaster type fun. You will enjoy it. Some of my favorite trails were in the Phoenix area. I did it all on a 5010 with PUSH coils front and rear. If you can adjust to the 3-4 months of heat the other 8-9 are amazing. If you like to barhop downtown Chandler does not disappoint... Good Luck!
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Sounds like I'll figure out the traffic patterns soon enough. Every house I like has a pool, which I don't particularly care for. Maybe I'll just have to accept drinking in it on hot days 🤷‍♂️
I grew up in Gilbert, but didn't ride mountain bikes when I lived there (dirt bikes yes, mountain bikes no), so no real comment on the actual biking parts of your question.

Just so you know though, some pools in Phoenix can get very, very warm, depending on the sun exposure. Like, to the point where because of the chlorine, it feels almost like you're swimming in sweat. My parents pool would hit the upper 80's - low 90's pretty easily in the summer. There were times where we checked, and our hot tub was cooler than the pool (admittedly, the tub wasn't turned on, and had its cover on at the time). So, on the hot days, it actually wasn't even very pleasant to be in the pool at my house.

In high school I did what seemed to be every manual labor outside job available (Landscaping, window washing, concrete work, AC repair). You'll learn really quick that early is better, and on the "actual" hot days, to respect the heat, and don't forget about electrolytes. When I was working outside, my water bottle was a standard 2L soda bottle. I'd usually fill it at least 3-5 times per 8hr day. If you've never had heat exhaustion, it sucks. I was with a landscaping crew at the end of the day when I had mine. I hate to think what would have happened if I was out riding solo at the time.

So... Just be aware, the heat is real there.

Also, I don't think you can claim to be a native, until you've burned yourself on the metal part of a seatbelt buckle, or started keeping oven mitts in the car so you can touch the steering wheel after parking in the sun for a while :p.
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started keeping oven mitts in the car so you can touch the steering wheel after parking in the sun for a while :p.
Lol, sounds amazing.

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Lol, sounds amazing.

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Yet notably better than being so deprived of sunlight and warmth that you resort to dyeing your pubes teal and mounting a spear point through your septum.
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Yet notably better than being so deprived of sunlight and warmth that you resort to dyeing your pubes teal and mounting a spear point through your septum.
I told you to stop spying on me!

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