I am new to MTBR and apologize if this question has been asked on this forum already. I did search before I posted but couldn't find this exact question. I want to thank everyone who shares information on here about Bikesdirect and thier product lines. I will be making a purchase from them but not totally sure on what model is best for me. I am not afraid to purchase before riding as I know that both of these bikes are much better than any at a local shop for the same money. I do not want to spend more than $500 as I am somewhat new to the sport and have other summer interests as well. I do, however, want the best bike for my money. In comparing these two bikes, they seem very similar. The major difference I see is the Dart 2 on the Windsor as well as a better front derailer. I would think that the Windsor would be priced quite a bit higher than the Moto but it is actually the opposite. WHY? Is the Moto a considerably better frame or is it because the Moto's are better known? Or is there something else I'm missing here. I would appreciate any imput on frame quality, weight difference, and any major component difference I should be looking at. Thank you.