I think that different types of bodies tend toward different cadences.
I find just the opposite; it's easier to keep traction at lower cadence.ryguy135 said:I prefer faster cadences (100-110) on the climbs and tricky spots personally.
I've been spinning higher cadences for years. Yes your legs work more at lower RPM and that is why I've been doing a lot of force workouts since starting this season. At first I couldn't stand 80 RPM for 10 minutes, now I can go for much longer, probably around 40 minutes at around 105% FTP non-stop.LightMiner said:However - Cil - have you tried to spin at 95 - 100 for 3 years? Also, there is something I think you're not taking into account. Yes - you are correct - your pulse will be lower at 85 rather than 100 for the same power. I've also done the power-test studies to see what my pulse/rpm relationship is (I used 200 watts, 4 minutes at 10 rpms). However, that is not the issue.
The issue is that at less than 90 RPM, or even 100 RPM, you are pushing more with your leg each turn, and while it uses your lungs/heart more your quads will give out more quickly. I think if you are doing a 5 - 10 minute power test, you can probably get a best time at 80 RPM, but if you are racing for 3 hours, and certainly for 10 hours, you'll find that after 3 years at 95 - 100, you're net benefit will be at the higher RPM.
Stand and hammer? SS fine. Geared races this is bad advice.MTB23 said:Stand and Hammer! I giggle when I passed the gearies spinning their brains out.
Plenty of SS racers smoking boys on gears at a lot of XC races. So what's up with that?WebInt said:Stand and hammer? SS fine. Geared races this is bad advice.
I agree with lightminer...of course your going to make better power at a lower cadence and lower heart rate but the problem is at the end of the race your legs will be dead..Our bodies are built to push those high cadences for much longer than low onesPissedOffCil said:I've been spinning higher cadences for years. Yes your legs work more at lower RPM and that is why I've been doing a lot of force workouts since starting this season. At first I couldn't stand 80 RPM for 10 minutes, now I can go for much longer, probably around 40 minutes at around 105% FTP non-stop.
I wonder why you think it takes time to adapt to higher cadences but you beleive one doesn't adapt to lower cadences...
With that said I'm pretty sure I'll set myself on a higher cadence for technical sections & climbs while going for a lower cadence on the flats.
One must also keep in mind that at 95 RPM, when time comes to bridge or keep up with an attack, you will need to shift to keep up. If you are at a lower cadence, you can simply raise your cadence. The bigger the gear, the bigger the difference in power output when you raise cadence. Personally this is a weakness. As I said, I spin a higher cadence climbing so when I reach the top of the hill I outspin my gear and must shift, often losing ground. I'll see if I cannot shift earlier to get a better acceleration over the hill top.
So, no, high cadence isn't the holy grail... nothing is except versatility and even then I'm not sure.
P.S. You need to work on force if you can't keep a lower cadence for more than 10 minutes
And I the same when I see a dinglespeeder standing and mashing their brains out at low RPM while I spin the whole time and save my legs.MTB23 said:Stand and Hammer! I giggle when I passed the gearies spinning their brains out.
Those same guys would be faster geared on many courses... It's too easy to get spun out on ss vs. geared. No comparison. Also, hike a bike happens to the ss guys faster than the gearies in most cases..BruceBrown said:Plenty of SS racers smoking boys on gears at a lot of XC races. So what's up with that?
I totally expect my legs to be dead at the end of a race...spec4life said:I agree with lightminer...of course your going to make better power at a lower cadence and lower heart rate but the problem is at the end of the race your legs will be dead..Our bodies are built to push those high cadences for much longer than low ones
I saw a range of cadences. I timed Sam Schultz on the first climb at 89 and he seemed as spinny as anyone.LightMiner said:Hmmm... They all have high cadence... Hmmm... For a 25 minute race...