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That looks like tons of fun. I have a swamp in my backyard woods too, I should make myself some ice tires out of my old WTB tires and try the swamp out.
 

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That looks like a ton of fun! We don't get much ice here so it seems kinda spooky too.

If you get good routine together with your buddy, you could try the olympics figure skating competition. As long as you are willing to wear a goofy outfit.

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Awesome~

Are you near the CT/NY border? We should plan a ride. What tires are you using? I just made these specialized enduro's 2.00 into studs with self-tapping metal lathe screws.



Cheers and great pictures!~
 

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Thanks for adding to the post.... Its fun to try different screw/tire set ups (as long as the ice lasts, sometimes conditions arent good: too warm, too much snow) and then riding on the edge of control. Sliding turns, especially front, I still fight the toe curling! This year for a week now the ice has been great.
My $.02 on your pictured set up: better grip than factory studs, but to push its grip, it looks like it could use more screws if the pictured tire is for front. Also, the tire would have more longevity with shorter screws: I think those screws will be folding over after 5-10 hours. So to me "ideal" ice tire criteria might be : 3/8" #6 sheet metal pan head screws, or longer 7 x7/16" "pan head framing screws". A tire with more and meatier knobs, a hard durometer, and taking frame clearance into serious account. About 250 screws in each, more in front, less in rear. Use a liner like a road slick with the bead's cut out between tube and tire. I pre drill, and take about 2 hours each tire. I hope this helps! I'd like to know how it works....
BTW, This swamp is located not far from CT., about 10 minutes west of Pawling on both sides of 55. There's a 2.5 mile course. Usually we're able to ride under 55, but that is currently moving water and just the one side is open. There's a third medium sized swamp there too. I'd also like to check the "Great Swamp" in Pawling, tho even just a few acres of ice is fine.
 

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Thanks for the reply. I couldn't find 3/8" so I used 1/2" and the reason I used these b/c they have a very narrow/flat but wide/round profile head compared to the other screws I saw at Home Depot. I have about 245 screws in each tire and will be using a spare tube as a liner and throrn resistent tubes in them. I'd love to do an ice ride with you guys as I'm not too far from NY/CT border.

Cheers and here's one more pic of the tire to get a better view of my stud pattern.


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Bolt cutters

Bolt cutters would take care of shortening those screws. If you don't cut them off, there are two issues: the screws will push over, wrecking the tire or if you run over leaves they will pick them up like mad.

John
 

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what are you putting on the inside of the tire to prevent the tube from being cut from the screw heads?
 

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Our screw choice has evolved from the ones you used to these pictured. The points and length provide better grip with less screw rollover, longer tire life, and better frame clearance. It was cool as sh!t to see the guy pictured doing donuts without dabbing on your screws tho. Too much grip with these screws to do that!
BTW, our next ice ride is Friday night @ 5 in Poughkeepsie. Usually we'd ride sunday but this one's off. Please msg me if interested in this or a later ride.
 

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