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fishercat said:
what is the difference in weight between the two frames ?

From the Ibis website.

Here are the weight savings you can expect to find on the SL.
Weight savings Frame: 130g
Weight savings if you use the DT Swiss Shock: 65 g
Weight savings Ti Bolts: 40 g
Weight savings bolt seat binder (vs QR): 45g.
Total, 280g = .61 lbs

Finally, note that painted frames are 60 g heavier than clear
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