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Pick the best ride. Please reply ASAP (option, why , thoughts)

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24 hrs.

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Trail/XC, drops 2-3 feet (60-90 cm)

First option

YETI 2012 ASR 5 CARBON ****WHITE
Condition ***New
Weight 24.96 lbs / 11.32 kg no pedals
Price $3699 usd (was $5,500)


2012 Front Suspension Fork FOX 32 FLOAT 140 RLC w/Kashima 15QR Tapered Fork
BrakeAvid Elixir X0 Disc Brakeset 160/160
Cassette SRAM PG-1050 12/36 Cassette
Chain SRAM PG-1051 Chain
Cranks Truvativ X0 GXP 2.2 Crankset
Front Derailleurs SRAM X0 2x10 High Clamp Front Derailleur
Rear Derailleurs SRAM X0 Rear Derailleur
Rear Shock 2012 FOX FLOAT RP23 Adaptive Logic w/Kashima Rear Shock
ShifterSRAM X0 2x10 Trigger Shifters
WheelsMavic Crossmax ST Wheelset


Second Option

YETI 2011 ASR 5 ALLOY *** BLACK
Condition used
Weight 27.2 lbs / 12.33 kg no pedals
Price $2 300 usd (was 3500)

2011 Front Suspension Fork FOX 32 FLOAT 140 RLC 15QR Tapered Fork
Brake XT 160/160
Cassettes SLR
Chain XT Chain
Cranks Shimano XT Crankset 44-32-22
Front Derailleurs Shimano XT
Rear Derailleurs Shimano XT Rear Derailleur
Rear Shock 2011 FOX FLOAT RP23 Adaptive Logic
Shifter Shimano XT Shifters
DT Swiss X1600 wheelset w/ QR15 front


EXTRA

  • I like black more than white
  • No 100 % about the carbon but I can live with that
  • Weight is important but I don't want a ***** bike
  • Money is important but I can upgrade is it's necessary ( even I have Crossmax SLR in my actual bike)
  • I want to get the best deal
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My opinion: 1,399 bucks is a lot just to save 1100 grams (and Kashima is over-rated).

But the carbon version is a better deal, that's for sure.
 

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My opinion: 1,399 bucks is a lot just to save 1100 grams (and Kashima is over-rated).

But the carbon version is a better deal, that's for sure.
Thanks!! man I know the carbon is sweet but I'm a little concern about that I can break it. I mean can be possible where I ride there are some rocks too so I don't know.

I think the different between XT and X0 is no to much.

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Thanks!! man I know the carbon is sweet but I'm a little concern about that I can break it. I mean can be possible where I ride there are some rocks too so I don't know.

I think the different between XT and X0 is no to much.

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I'm not a fan of Yeti, I never had one... so my opinion has no technical basis, however all know they are high quality bikes.

I think that any model is a good choice, I would choose the carbon fiber with closed eyes.:thumbsup:

regards.
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I would flip a coin... then ask the same coin if its got a lot more buddies with him.
Seriously though, if your wallet can handle it, i would go with the CF. I doubt its gonna break and if it does (highly unlikely) I bet costumer service will provide you with a new one.

theres not a whole lot of weigh savings, but componentwise, X0 is the better option
 

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Both are great deals ... If money wasn't a problem, I would get the Carbon version. Maybe, just because of the XO group, but I'm biased here.

Also I'm a WW and loosing those 2 pounds in that bike will cost you more than those 1100 diference. (

Don't be afraid of Carbon. If you end up breaking it, You would have break (or at least damage) anything

And the Carbon one is NEW. that is a big plus for me. Even if the Demo is just been slightly used
 

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Don't drink the kool aid just because everyone else is doing it.
*If* it was me I'd go with the alloy frame, don't get me wrong, I love the plasticity and free forming of CF shapes but sadly I have earned to distrust it: I had a new road CF bike that didn't survived a mild crash (didn't failed there but developed cracks) and in the light of disclosure my MTB has a CF frame (white in colour. nonetheless...) but looking forward to go back to alloy (hopefully a BMC trailfox or a fourstroke) See, CF is only strong in the direction of the fibers and it can take some punishment under the *usual* conditions because it's designed for that but say you are standing still and bike slips from your fingers, falls over to the side and top frame hits a sharp rock edge right in the middle tube, IT can crack the frame, know what I mean?

Also, do you like to keep your bikes for a long time? Carbon may not have a great resell value over 3-4 yrs old. Anyhow, I believe any of these two fit the bill nicely and are a great choice.
 

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Don't drink the kool aid just because everyone else is doing it.
*If* it was me I'd go with the alloy frame, don't get me wrong, I love the plasticity and free forming of CF shapes but sadly I have earned to distrust it: I had a new road CF bike that didn't survived a mild crash (didn't failed there but developed cracks) and in the light of disclosure my MTB has a CF frame (white in colour. nonetheless...) but looking forward to go back to alloy (hopefully a BMC trailfox or a fourstroke) See, CF is only strong in the direction of the fibers and it can take some punishment under the *usual* conditions because it's designed for that but say you are standing still and bike slips from your fingers, falls over to the side and top frame hits a sharp rock edge right in the middle tube, IT can crack the frame, know what I mean?

Also, do you like to keep your bikes for a long time? Carbon may not have a great resell value over 3-4 yrs old. Anyhow, I believe any of these two fit the bill nicely and are a great choice.
Thanks !! to everybody. I would like to have the group X0 but my smile finish when the carbon frame start. I read some bad o good experiences about CF. The risck is there a little more than the Alloy. I never have a very bad crash but in this sport you never know. CF is light and nice too. I try to get the XO with alloy but they have only light blue ( :nono: no my color)

We still have 6 hrs. Asi que sus opiniones son importantes y ya veremos que pasa!!!

y como dice el brozo ...si tienen TV ahi se ven ....:D
 

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I'm with spinerguy. Life is a box of chocolates, you never know when you're gonna brake your frame!

Take the light blue, paint it black, done!.
 

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I'm with spinerguy. Life is a box of chocolates, you never know when you're gonna brake your frame!

Take the light blue, paint it black, done!.

hahahah but you right ... one more for alloy :thumbsup:

Question avid 7 or xt brakes? maybe If I get the alloy I will change de brakes but I don't know if the avid 7(2009) are better than the XT (2011)

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hahahah but you right ... one more for alloy :thumbsup:

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Don´t be afraid, aluminum frames also break and over time have metal fatigue ,don´t worry CF frames are very good, beautiful, unique, durable, attractive.....
go with the beauty and performance of carbon fiber frames .:thumbsup:

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hahahah but you right ... one more for alloy :thumbsup:

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Don´t be afraid, aluminum frames also break and over time have metal fatigue ,don´t worry CF frames are very good, beautiful, unique, durable, attractive.....
go with the beauty and performance of carbon fiber frames .:thumbsup:

the last biker

Gracias last ....Espero tomar la mejor decision ..quien sabe a lo mejor con los nuevos modelos del 2012 se encuentra algo mas tentados ...Ibis, santacruz tambien me gustan ...de hecho hasta he pensado en full suspention NINER ......ya veremos jajaja
 

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Black is always faster!!!
On the brakes, it's a no brainer, go XT. Take a look at the Brake Time subforum to check Avid threads.
 

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Yo me compraría la de carbón con los ojos cerrados. Sin embargo, por esa cantidad, yo me compraría una Mojo (desde luego que mi opinión no es muy objetiva, pues tengo una Mojo ja ja).

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Yo me compraría la de carbón con los ojos cerrados. Sin embargo, por esa cantidad, yo me compraría una Mojo (desde luego que mi opinión no es muy objetiva, pues tengo una Mojo ja ja).

Saludos
jajaj Yo se que tienes una mojo, pero la mojo necesita 140 y yo creo que esto es mucho para el terreno que uso. Ademas soy un gran ususario de los botes de agua, cuando ando me voy a lugares cerca ( tengo suerte de vivir de los lugares mas cotizados de por aqui) y solo ando por dos horas y con un bote de agua la hago. Tu sabes que la ibis pues no tiene lugar para el bote ( lo tiene abajo pero mmmmmm se ve raro ahi) no te creas la tentacion de la ibis tambien es grande jajaj sobre todo la blanca ...
 

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.. pero la mojo necesita 140 y yo creo que esto es mucho paraa el terreno que uso. Ademas soy un gran ususario de los botes de agua, cuando ando me voy a lugares cerca ( tengo suerte de vivir de los lugares mas cotizados de por aqui) y solo ando por dos horas y con un bote de agua la hago. Tu sabes que la ibis pues no tiene lugar para el bote ( lo tiene abajo pero mmmmmm se ve raro ahi) no te creas la tentacion de la ibis tambien es grande jajaj sobre todo la blanca ...

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DOS COMENTARIOS :

Aún con 140 mm la Mojo SL se maneja y se desempeña mejor que muchas dobles con 100 o 120 de recorrido , en la Mojo tu utilizas lo que tu necesitas depende del terreno , si el terreno está dificil usas mas recorrido si esta plano ni se mueve la suspensión .

Respecto a los porta anforas , ese no es ningún problema , hay diversas alternativas que funcionan excelentemente y sin complicaciones :

Ejemplos :

ADAPTER - News 2011 - SKS Germany

https://www.kingcage.com/assets/img/handymount.gif

Rixen & Kaul - KLICKfix Bottle KLICK

Fotos :

saludos
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DOS COMENTARIOS :

Aún con 140 mm la Mojo SL se maneja y se desempeña mejor que muchas dobles con 100 o 120 de recorrido , en la Mojo tu utilizas lo que tu necesitas depende del terreno , si el terreno está dificil usas mas recorrido si esta plano ni se mueve la suspensión .

Respecto a los porta anforas , ese no es ningún problema , hay diversas alternativas que funcionan excelentemente y sin complicaciones :

Ejemplos :

ADAPTER - News 2011 - SKS Germany

https://www.kingcage.com/assets/img/handymount.gif

Rixen & Kaul - KLICKfix Bottle KLICK

Fotos :

saludos
the last biker
I know!!!

No creas que no pieso en otras bicis, me gusta la Ibis sl y tambien se que tienen un performance muy bueno gracias a su tecnologia como tambien las Pivot, pero por algun motivo me gustan las Yeti y tambien han tenido muy buenas criticas.

Quien sabe a lo mejor next year ..jajajajja

BTW que padre esta la ibis es tuya????....

de hecho vi esta en ebay Ibis sl 25 libras wow ...el precio no tan malo ...

Ibis Mojo SL, Small, Matte Black, Complete Bike, Tasteful Build | eBay

Sino es por falta de credibilidad es por falta de dinero jajajajaj
 
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