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I've done this before but have forgotten. Start at Lair of The Bear lower lot, up the singletrack to Pence Park, down the paved road then up to the top of Mt. Falcon (upper parking lot for Mt. Falcon) then down the main trail to the Mt. Falcon parking lot in Morrison. Mileage and average ride time?

I'd like this info not including any side trips at the top of Mt. Falcon nor originally parking at the Morrison lot and riding up Bear Creek Canyon Rd. which I'm never gonna do!
 

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I've done

that too and my memory is challenging me as well, but I think it's 2-2.5 hours and 18ish miles. Don't make important plans based on that though. :D
 

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It's right around 13 miles and about 1:20 - the time is commuting time though (no stops, at a moderate pace) I'm lucky and have actually worked this into my commute :)
 

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like way better info than mine! That would be a nice really nice commute:thumbsup: That actually makes more sense now that I think about it, since a lotb to pence out and back takes about 1.5 hours.
 

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I keep thinking that road ride is longer than it maybe is. One thing I do remember is how much climbing there is once you begin going up (off the HWY) to the Mt. Falcon upper west lot.
 

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From the start of the single track at Lair/Pence (after the gravel road) to the lower parking lot at Falcon is 12.2 miles. It took me 1:45 real time, but we stopped a couple of times. I'm thinking if you don't stop and are in hsape around 1:20 is more realistic.

This is according to my garmin.

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xcguy said:
I'd like this info not including any side trips at the top of Mt. Falcon nor originally parking at the Morrison lot and riding up Bear Creek Canyon Rd. which I'm never gonna do!
You gonna get dropped off at the LOB lot? Seems like a waste.

I like parking in downtown Morrison and riding up the canyon, or up Mt Falcon. A little bit of road gives you a warm up for either ride.

I still flip a coin as to which way I like better - up Falcon and down LOB, or up the canyon and LOB and down Falcon. I like that going CCW makes it easy to add the Parmalee trail to the loop. I like going CW because you spend fewer minutes on the road, and if you have a buddy or two, you can pace line down the canyon and get a screaming leg burn to end the ride.

The entire loop is 2:15ish going CW as I recall.
 

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You gonna get dropped off at the LOB lot? Seems like a waste.

I like parking in downtown Morrison and riding up the canyon, or up Mt Falcon. A little bit of road gives you a warm up for either ride.

I still flip a coin as to which way I like better - up Falcon and down LOB, or up the canyon and LOB and down Falcon. I like that going CCW makes it easy to add the Parmalee trail to the loop. I like going CW because you spend fewer minutes on the road, and if you have a buddy or two, you can pace line down the canyon and get a screaming leg burn to end the ride.

The entire loop is 2:15ish going CW as I recall.
If it was dirt from the lower Mt. Falcon lot to LOTB I'd do the complete loop with the rubber side down. But I can't stand riding pavement with cars whizzing by, I just won't do it. Roadies have no idea why I feel this way but it's a given in my life.

I like climbing Mt. Falcon but some in the groups I've ridden this ride with would rather go down it. If it's going to be a hot summer's day it's more important to get a real early start climbing Mt. Falcon (with that scorching east exposure) than it is to get an uber-early start on LOTB. Mid-summer start for me on Mt. Falcon means riding at 6:30am and not everyone can get to any trailhead that early. Better to be going down Mt. Falcon in the heat of the day, I guess.
 

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Cars probably won't be whizzing by you going down the canyon...I did Morrison>Mt. Falcon Pence>Lair the Bear>Little Park>74 yesterday..about 20.5 miles...Maintained between 30-35 mph going down the road and my top gear is 32-13. Maybe 2 cars passed me.

Between Mt. Falcon and Pence though you might have some cars whizzing by and aren't you riding the road there too? About ten cars passed me up there.
 

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mountaingoatepics said:
Cars probably won't be whizzing by you going down the canyon...I did Morrison>Mt. Falcon Pence>Lair the Bear>Little Park>74 yesterday..about 20.5 miles...Maintained between 30-35 mph going down the road and my top gear is 32-13. Maybe 2 cars passed me.

Between Mt. Falcon and Pence though you might have some cars whizzing by and aren't you riding the road there too? About ten cars passed me up there.
Yes, pavement between Pence and Mt. Falcon but that's doable for my paranoia. It's another class of driver in that area rather than the crowd going from Morrison to Evergreen and I can feel them noticing and avoiding me. Hey, this paranoia I have of riding on pavement generates from the cellular level. I have no control of it, kind of like a phobia. 30-35 mph also is a phobia of mine!

In fact, whenever I see a bike rider on either Bear Creek Canyon Rd. or Coal Creek I can't help but think they have some kind of death wish working. But that's another thread, maybe. On a thread discussing mountain bikers on pavement some roadie exclaimed "there's nothing like the feeling of descending at 55 mph!" Sounds like a death wish to me, bro.
 

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me too!

Yes, pavement between Pence and Mt. Falcon but that's doable for my paranoia. It's another class of driver in that area rather than the crowd going from Morrison to Evergreen and I can feel them noticing and avoiding me. Hey, this paranoia I have of riding on pavement generates from the cellular level. I have no control of it, kind of like a phobia. 30-35 mph also is a phobia of mine!
No freaking way I'm riding on that canyon road, too much of that situation is depending on other people watching out for me. My preferred route there is lotb > falcon > paramalee loop > lotb. The road between Pence and falcon actually has large dirt shoulders in spots and I can hear a car coming from a long way back and move way over in the dirt, and once you hit the side streets to the lot it's very low volume.
 

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No freaking way I'm riding on that canyon road, too much of that situation is depending on other people watching out for me.
If you park in Morrison and go clockwise (up Falcon, down LOB), the road isn't much of an issue because you're going almost the same speed as any cars. Its a quick few miles.

Going up the canyon isn't too bad - there is a shoulder on much of it. It does give you a nice adrenaline shot when the cars cross those "rumble strip" thingy's though. They're on the center line, so when they cross over to avoid you, there's a pretty loud rumble. :eek:

I used to live in Conifer and commuted a few times down S Turkey. You end up on 285 with no shoulder from S Turkey to the Morrison exit by the Fort. You're going 45 next to cars going 60. Its better than a shot of espresso.

Or, the part of the triply bypass where you ride on the shoulder of I-70 climbing up to the Loveland ski area exit. Its not so bad because its a full shoulder, but you're crawling along at 12 mph, and they're doing 70. A car hit a sign that was laying in the edge of the lane - turned it into a flying machette. Now that was scary.
 

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Or, the part of the triple bypass
I like the part where you're descending Vail Pass on the "sidewalk" doing 40+ one minute, and navigating a 90 degree right-hander which passes beneath an overpass the next. I think someone actually shot off the corner onto the rocks below the year I did the ride.
 

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I passed (at 65mph) a couple on a tandem (in full tuck mode) doing 60mph down the west side of Vail Pass. The lady in back must have had a whole bunch of confidence in her man up front. As I passed them I thought "How sweet---matching death wishes!"
 

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I like the part where people throw down tacks on the lower part of Squaw Pass. Lots of flats and people walking their bikes for stretches. That was '05, and someone said it had happened a couple times.

As far as Falcon/LOTB I like CW because you come down the Hiway and spend less time on it that way, lessening the chances of cars side-swiping you. The climb CCW isn't bad, but there are too many blind corners/small shoulders for my liking.
 

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I like the part where you're descending Vail Pass on the "sidewalk" doing 40+ one minute, and navigating a 90 degree right-hander which passes beneath an overpass the next. I think someone actually shot off the corner onto the rocks below the year I did the ride.
Yeah, that turn is dicey.

My fav was coming down the backside of Loveland pass towards A Basin and having to pass 18 wheelers between switchbacks. You'd get up to 45 and commit to crossing the double yellow to pass one, then have to deal with coming into a hairpin turn going that fast. Adrenaline was squirting everywhere.
 

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I like the part where people throw down tacks on the lower part of Squaw Pass. Lots of flats and people walking their bikes for stretches. That was '05, and someone said it had happened a couple times.
Yep - '05 was the year I did it with my dad (the things we do for those we love, huh?).

Nothing makes a point like some anonymous little b!tch spreading tacks across a road for strangers to run over later. I'd have happily patched my tires with the stranger's eyelids had he had the character to stick around and take credit for his actions. I guess cowardice is it's own reward.
 
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