LolI ordered them just before Memorial Day. They arrived today. be aware, anything that passes customs in NYC is a month away.
Arrived one day before a 5 day family camping trip. No chance to ride until next week.
First impressions riding at my house though:
1. My yard is mulch-land. My old tires roll right over this. These tires pick up all sorts of mulch and throw it all over the place. Crazy levels of grip, there. It's like putting racing slicks on your car then driving through a parking lot, you throw up gravel behind you like a rooster tail.
2. My old tires, I would turn on the street and could lean over far enough that the rear would squirt out from under me and I'd flop over like a wet noodle. These tires DO NOT LOSE GRIP. I can't lean over far enough to lose traction. I just turn. Rapidly. I could lean over harder at speed, but I'm not gonna do that in shorts and a t-shirt in front of my house on the pavement.
3. I run tubes, but at 17-ish psi, they feel like they are at way higher pressure. The material in these tires is STIFF! I bet I could run 12 PSI or less without danger to pinch flatting. I'll probably experiment with lower pressures after my first ride next Saturday.
4. The graphics are goofy. But they could be alot worse. They wash out the green on my rear triangle and make it look yellow. Purely vanity.
5. I forgot to weigh them, but they are 26" tires. I think they weigh less than some XC 29" tires
Yep. Tubeless DH is so much nicer. Honestly, there's little that's changed over the years with DH casings in regards to weight. 1.4kg is where any proper DH casing would sit now in a full 26x2.8 size. That's just a lot of rubber. 650b is only 25mm bigger adding around 40g. Folding DH casings will cut around 100g, but most of today's DH tires are wire so there's really little difference in weight compared to 15+ years ago. When I saw the original posted weight of 1.2kg for 26x2.4 in a soft compound, I assumed it would have to be folding to achieve that light weight. While I've yet to see a verified weight, it sounds like 26x2.4 will come in at 1.3kg which is par for the course now, and 15 years ago.As far as the weight goes lets keep in mind. When the Comp 32 and 24 were the go to tires the Comp 32 in a 26"x2.8 were around 1400gr and we used a 400gr tube on a 650-700gr rim.
You sure about that part?, it seems way heavier than what I was running. Maybe more like 500-600 or so?As far as the weight goes lets keep in mind. When the Comp 32 and 24 were the go to tires the Comp 32 in a 26"x2.8 were around 1400gr and we used a 400gr tube on a 650-700gr rim.
I think my sun mammoths were well over 700g. I mostly ran sun ryno lite's though which were 510g I believe. They were not daily driver DH rims though. I remember there being a few 700g+ rims, mostly sun ringle. The double track was like 800g! Mavic had some real heavy options too. For the 1% emulating bender, they actually needed such heavy rims.You sure about that part?, it seems way heavier than what I was running. Maybe more like 500-600 or so?
In case, I wouldn't say the Comp 32s were a "go to", it was more like a short experiment where we figured out that too wide was slow, just like the Gazzis and Arrow 3.0 DH tires. The Comp 24.1 was just too soft to run more than a few days IME. Tires from Intense and Maxxis quickly overshadowed these and the Michelin tires faded into obscurity pretty fast.
Think I run 18/20 at the moment, seems like a good compromise for me and my conditions.What tire pressure do you suggest? I used 16 and got lots of resistance. I set to 12 yesterday cause i think the tires can handle that, then realized what the heck am I doing? I don’t need to improve the grip! So today I set to 20 to see if i can improve rolling resistance without sacrificing grip.
But i dont like drifty, controllable or not. So ill use whatever is under the border of drifty and God bless the rolling resistance. So what pressures did you find to be drifty, and which not?
Ive only tried 16 so far.
Nice find! So I have no idea why mich didn't provide basic info about the park. According to this it has a lighter sidewall, different tpi and gumx compound. With the "park" name I assumed a really hard, long lasting compound. Gumx is pretty standard medium compound you'll find on a lot of popular tires. I'm guessing the casing is going to be similar to mich's advanced reinforced they use on their enduro tires. TPI is the same as my wild rock'r2. Not sure why mich wants to make things confusing for us? All they needed to do was say DH and enduro casings with soft, or medium compounds. While I find advanced reinforced an ok casing, it's far from DH. We'll see if I'm right is assuming the park uses that casing. Too bad he didn't weigh the park.