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Hi I have some questions. I know threads like this are cliche but hear me out. Also you can't search 2 or 3 letter words so I have to ask.

1) the MZ comp fork? I know they're OEM and 100mm of coil travel.

2)Bomber EXR Pro fork? This looks really good for the money and has 105mm travel.

3)MX Pro ETA fork, I know this is probably the best of the 3 I'm mentioning but also costs the most. The preload adjustment on this coil fork is air. I wouldn't think the air-preload would take as much abuse as an air-spring so would it be less prone to leaking (I'm coming off a noleen mega-air....)?

I'm not sure what the stantion sizes are on these forks but that's not so much of a concern for me. More so I'm wanting to know about the quality and longivity I can get out of them as well as weight if any of them are "too" heavy.

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umbertom said:
Hi I have some questions. I know threads like this are cliche but hear me out. Also you can't search 2 or 3 letter words so I have to ask.

1) the MZ comp fork? I know they're OEM and 100mm of coil travel.

2)Bomber EXR Pro fork? This looks really good for the money and has 105mm travel.

3)MX Pro ETA fork, I know this is probably the best of the 3 I'm mentioning but also costs the most. The preload adjustment on this coil fork is air. I wouldn't think the air-preload would take as much abuse as an air-spring so would it be less prone to leaking (I'm coming off a noleen mega-air....)?

I'm not sure what the stantion sizes are on these forks but that's not so much of a concern for me. More so I'm wanting to know about the quality and longivity I can get out of them as well as weight if any of them are "too" heavy.

Thanks
Of the 3 forks you've named, I think only the MX Pro is made by Marzocchi. The other two, although they bear the Marzocchi name, are made by Suntour. MZ has elastomers and coils, no damping circuitry. EXR is not unlike the MX, except some damping elements are plastic. The chasis is heavier, also. Although it bears very similar dimensions, the materials used are cheaper. An alternative to MX pro is MX comp which sould be about $50 less and is just as good. All it is missing is external rebound adjustment. Air preload is very durable.

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I had an EXR comp that came stock on my bike. The fork was downright dangerous and had many problems....preload screw kept on backing out - fork kept on loosing air,,,and a bunch of other stuff.

I would say go with the MX cause itll probably last you longer and save you money in the long run. The decent Marzocchi stuff generally lasts a really long time. Im riding a 2001 atom race that i got off of ebay and after an overhaul it rides perfect.
 

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Ive had some MZ COMP since i got them in 2004 done a few services but other then that have never had to buy new parts,Ive used them for XC and DJ and they havent gone wrong mainly becuase im a smooth rider and ive looked after them ive gave them my bro now so he can practice DJ,But really you should get the MX's cause they will feel alot better and be alot stronger.
 

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I have an 04 MX Comp....

0 problems! Regular maintenance and a little TLC and they're very durable. The air preload system doesn't use a cartridge. The air chamber is actually the air space between the oil and the top cap, nothing mechanical to it. The only thing that you have to make sure of is that you have a good LOW PRESSURE shock pump for setting the preload. A couple of PSI can make a huge difference in the way the fork peforms and feels. The MX Pro has some nicer features than the Comp but at a higher price point as you have mentioned. But it is worth the extra $ for the extra features and the better quality. This is deffinately a situation where you get what you pay for. Esspecially when you are talking the difference between the EXR, MZ and MX series of forks. Personally the MX series is as low as I would go in the Marzocchi food chain.

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MK_ said:
Of the 3 forks you've named, I think only the MX Pro is made by Marzocchi. The other two, although they bear the Marzocchi name, are made by Suntour. MZ has elastomers and coils, no damping circuitry. EXR is not unlike the MX, except some damping elements are plastic. The chasis is heavier, also. Although it bears very similar dimensions, the materials used are cheaper. An alternative to MX pro is MX comp which sould be about $50 less and is just as good. All it is missing is external rebound adjustment. Air preload is very durable.

_MK
He's got it right. It should also be mentioned that depending on the model year and version, the EXR could be dual coil, coil and elastomer, or air sprung. With the MX Comp series, there was a dual coil version, and the ETA versions were a hybrid coil and air combo until '06. The MX Pro through '05 was an air sprung fork. In '06, the complete MX line (Comp and Pro w/ETA) are air sprung. (I believe I have this correct). To further complicate things, the Aftermarket and OEM forks have differences too. In any event, be very sure of what year and model fork you are buying, and whether or not the fork is OEM or Aftermarket, and check the Marzocchi web site for specifics.

In any event, I'd go with the MX series.

Bob
 

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Thanks guys I'm looking into maybe an 85mm mx now because my noleen fork was too long on my bike at 100mm and could've been longer when it was set at 75mm
or what I was also thinking is getting a 100mm version and perhaps limiting the travel with some cut PVC pipe so I can later remove them and use the fork on a new bike.

I definetly wont choose a fork with inferior materials becuase my noleen I'm replacing is full of cheap (but light) plastic and I stripped a piece
 

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umbertom said:
wow that sucks that all the '06s are air, I'm trying to find a coil 85mm
edit: can a 120mm version somehow be limited oh, say, 30mm? there isn't a whole lot of selection of new 2005 forks
I have an '05 Marzocchi MX Comp Coil 85mm. It will be difficult to find, but keep your eyes peeled. It is an OEM product, but mine came brand new in a box and I got it for $175.00 shipped. Here's a link to it on Marzocchi's site:

http://www.marzocchi.com/Template/d...#4#DQG#&Prgho\hdu&#@#;68:&mCJ=&IDOggetto=8432

Best wishes in finding a good coil fork.

Bob
 

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175 shipped, amazing
I believe this is exactly what I was looking for even though it's $245+shipping
I read in the reviews on this site that this fork only gets about 65-70mm of actual travel
clyde, if you're running this fork can you confirm what kind of travel it gets?
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umbertom said:
175 shipped, amazing
I believe this is exactly what I was looking for even though it's $245+shipping
I read in the reviews on this site that this fork only gets about 65-70mm of actual travel
clyde, if you're running this fork can you confirm what kind of travel it gets?
Thank you
I've had the fork for a few months now and have only logged about 25 miles of paved path and light gravel roads on it. I don't doubt the claims that it's only getting 70mm of actual travel. Marzocchi's aren't known for bottoming out too often :thumbsup: It's been very good for the time I've had it, and for the light usage it's been put through. I do expect to take it on some more technical singletrack this summer.

Again, keep your eyes peeled. they show up on ebay from time to time. I'll be happy to PM you if I come across one, as I'm scouring ebay now for another hardtail project I might embark on.

Bob
 

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The canadian distributor lists the origin country for the various models in their catalog and as I recall, the AM 1 is made in taiwan, as well as the grand fondo and a bunch of others below the MX Pro/ETA of the aftermarket line, as well as most all the OEM ones.
 

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umbertom said:
I wouldn't think the air-preload would take as much abuse as an air-spring so would it be less prone to leaking (I'm coming off a noleen mega-air....)?
Given that the air seals in both are rubber o-rings, neither is any less/more prone to leaking. I've run MegaAirs for 5 years now with no leakage issues.
 

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Given that the air seals in both are rubber o-rings, neither is any less/more prone to leaking. I've run MegaAirs for 5 years now with no leakage issues.
but an air-spring uses twice as high psi doesn't it? I would think 60+ psi would leak a easier than <30psi

My MegaAir is toast because in the left rebound leg the metal rod completly stipped the plastic piece and it's not like there's a noleen that I can buy parts from
 

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umbertom said:
but an air-spring uses twice as high psi doesn't it? I would think 60+ psi would leak a easier than <30psi
So? the seals are the same as used in paintball guns and those can hold hundreds of psi for months or more without leaking in many cases. I've pressurized cheap plastic pump guns with a 12 gram cartridge, which is btw, about 800psi internal pressure at room temperature, and gone back to the gun a year later and its still got a full cartridge.

My MegaAir is toast because in the left rebound leg the metal rod completly stipped the plastic piece and it's not like there's a noleen that I can buy parts from
yes there is, noleen was a division of K2, and they still had tons of parts for the forks when people got crazy buying them up 2 years ago on here.
 

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Different fork

umbertom said:
edit tomy last post, I completly left out the link
http://www.blueskycycling.com/product1759_39_-2006-Marzocchi-MX-Comp-Fork-85mm.htm

I wonder if the new '06 version is tweaked any different than the '05 OEMs
The '06 are air sprung, so it's a different fork. The '05 MX Comp Coil (and the designation "Coil" in the name will be key if you search for this fork) is coil sprung in both legs with SSV damping. Check that Marzocchi link I gave you for clarification. Like I said originally, each modle year they have different specs. It can be pretty confusing.

I hope this clarifies the difference.

Bob
 

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I've a 130mm OE Drop Off; huffed the stickers for some from Marzocchi's sticker sheets, and my 2005 Ironhorse Hardtail is just fine. I will take this to G-outs after 30-40 foot drops where you return back the same type transition. 20psi in the preload and anywhere from 7 to 27 in the air-assist. I'm 6', 205lbs and do not stop to smell the flowers. This fork was given from my friend who owns a bike shop, and for where I ride (SWFL) his other option was a Z1 Freeride, same stroke. Get on it.
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