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Marzocchi Fender - Fashion or Function?

With all the rain we've been getting, there are so many mud puddles out on the trails. I'm getting really tired of eating mud. I don't get fed going through the mud, as I usually go fairly slow. I get it afterwards when I pick up speed and the mud starts to fling. Today, I got a few in the eyes to boot.

I have a 2004 Z1 FR SL and my old Topek Fender does not fit it. My LBS has a Marzocchi Fender in stock for $70 Canadian. (Highway robbery IMO) It seems that this is the only fender that will fit the Z series forks. (Probably explains the high cost)

Although stylish, it looks kinda short both front and back. Certainly a lot smaller than the Topeak. I do not want to dip into the kids' college fund to buy this little thing if it will not keep the muck outta my pie hole.

Anyone use this fender? Fashion or Function?

Tequila
 

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(I haven't seen the new Z1 forks in real life, so these comments can be considered unreliable.)

Most fenders out there are proper designed and built, the Marza fenders have enough nose and tail to keep the crap off you face. They look metal to me, but could just to shiny plastic, either way these Marz fenders are attached by a single screw (bring out the threadlocker) and when the mud builds up, the weight of the mud might get the fender unstuck.
Try the other cheaper and just as good fenders out there, I use SKS's Dirtboard and X-Tra Dry fenders, both are very handy and no-brainer QR and I haven't broken them yet. t.h.e. make equally pimping (doesn't do it for me) fenders, their fenders are made of polycarbonate instead of the more flexible and slightly less strong polyprolyene of SKS, but t.h.e. fenders cost close to what the Marzocchi one's do and SKS cost close to your Topeak's.

A tip when using fenders: spray the 'face' of the fender with a dry lube and this reduces the copious amounts of mud from caking.
 

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I ran the fender on my 2003 Z1 and 2003 Super T. It works great -- glasses are optional, and your face is clean at the end of a muddy ride. I'll be getting one this fall for my 888. It attaches by two water bottle cage bolts.

I also ran the THE "dual sport" fender on my Shiver -- works great as well, and is much stronger than the "DH" model because the plastic is thicker and slightly lower profile.
 

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tequila joe said:
With all the rain we've been getting, there are so many mud puddles out on the trails. I'm getting really tired of eating mud. I don't get fed going through the mud, as I usually go fairly slow. I get it afterwards when I pick up speed and the mud starts to fling. Today, I got a few in the eyes to boot.

I have a 2004 Z1 FR SL and my old Topek Fender does not fit it. My LBS has a Marzocchi Fender in stock for $70 Canadian. (Highway robbery IMO) It seems that this is the only fender that will fit the Z series forks. (Probably explains the high cost)

Although stylish, it looks kinda short both front and back. Certainly a lot smaller than the Topeak. I do not want to dip into the kids' college fund to buy this little thing if it will not keep the muck outta my pie hole.

Anyone use this fender? Fashion or Function?

Tequila
While the Zoke fender looks good, it's fairly worthless. I'm used to the coverage of an SKS Shockboard fender. The Zoke fender allows mud and stones to fly everywhere. The Zoke fenter doesn't even block crud at the 90 degree position (looking at the front wheel from the drive side...the part of the front tire that is at 9 o'clock will throw mud straight up. The Zoke fender is not long enough to even block that . I'm currently modifying my ZOke fender by attaching part of the SKS fender to the back side of the Zoke fender.

I suppost that if you ride in a very aggressive position with your head over the bars, then the fender might work OK, but I don't ride like that vary often.

Save your money. Have you found anything else that will fit? My SKS definitely will not fit on my 03 Z1FR.
 

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Bought the fender a while back for the 03 Z1 FR I had and it truely was robbery. Paid like $35 for it and it was nothing but a thin sheet plastic with 2 screws. Must cost and has about as much material as three large plastic cups to make. It should be worth about 5 dollars and you should get them in a 5 pack.
 

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what's a fender for anyway?

The only thing I care about with a mtb front fender is that it keeps mud out of my eyes and teeth. I really don't care if it flings crap on my down tube and shoes -- they get covered anyway on a good wet muddy ride. With my THE fender, I don't even run the rear part, only the front part. I ride all winter long in Oregon, so I have a lot of experience with wet muddy rides. The Marzocchi fender does an excellent job for my needs.
 

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Blue Shorts said:
I suppost that if you ride in a very aggressive position with your head over the bars, then the fender might work OK, but I don't ride like that vary often.

Save your money. Have you found anything else that will fit? My SKS definitely will not fit on my 03 Z1FR.
I have not found anything else that will fit under the Z1 crown. My old Topeak Defender (paid $18 Canadian for it buy the way) operates the same as most "standard" fender mounting systems. (a plug inserted into the steer tube from below). The Z1 crown does not allow this type of system to mount firmly into the steer tube without major customization. Aside from some frame mounted systems, (Crud guards...) I have not seen anything else that will mount to a Z1 crown.

Hucubus said:
Bought the fender a while back for the 03 Z1 FR I had and it truely was robbery. Paid like $35 for it and it was nothing but a thin sheet plastic with 2 screws. Must cost and has about as much material as three large plastic cups to make. It should be worth about 5 dollars and you should get them in a 5 pack.
So Hecubus, aside form being over priced, does this fender keep the mud outta your face?

watermoccasin said:
The only thing I care about with a mtb front fender is that it keeps mud out of my eyes and teeth. I really don't care if it flings crap on my down tube and shoes -- they get covered anyway on a good wet muddy ride. With my THE fender, I don't even run the rear part, only the front part. I ride all winter long in Oregon, so I have a lot of experience with wet muddy rides. The Marzocchi fender does an excellent job for my needs..
watermoccasin, Do you run the Marzocchi fender? If so, how much did you pay for it?

I have been a solid supporter of Marzocchi products in the past and have used thier forks on all current/previous mountain bikes. I really like the performance of thier products but lately, from posts on this site & personal experience, have questioned thier quality control, customer service (US not Canada), warrantee policies and business practices. It seems that the Z1 fender market is cornered. To that point, Marzocchi &/or the LBS's feel that they can charge rediculous prices for a flimsy plastic fender & 2 screws. ($75 bucks Canadian plus tax!!)

Marzocchi (US) has made thier customers bend over backwards to get thier forks warrantied because of thier poor QA, and now, they bend them over forwards when they want to buy a fender.

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Blue Shorts said:
I suppost that if you ride in a very aggressive position with your head over the bars, then the fender might work OK, but I don't ride like that vary often.

Save your money. Have you found anything else that will fit? My SKS definitely will not fit on my 03 Z1FR.
Oh my god, is Marzocchi doing the Shitmano thing and creating incompartiblity issues?

t.h.e. fenders, I think there's one piece model that fits over the crown, should resolve fitting issues, maybe?
 

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A good fender is...

The SKS Crusher. I ran one on my '03 Z1 and it worked really well. The Marzocchi fender does not give that great of coverage besides being very overpriced.
 

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The SKS Crusher. I ran one on my '03 Z1 and it worked really well. The Marzocchi fender does not give that great of coverage besides being very overpriced.
Hope that works on tequila joe's 2004 Z1.

I retract my recommendation on t.h.e. fenders, the most reviews point out the too weak mounting and the fagileness of the fender. I think the materials too thin, so they can reduce weight.
 

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I think it will fit fine...

They did not change the crown from '03 to '04 to my knowledge (although they did alter the arch for better clearance). Also, I believe the factory fender is the same for all years that use it.
 

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For mud get Fugly, its a frame fender that protects your drivetrain too (no effect on shifting even 3 rings) along with keeping the mud from flying into your eyes frame, pivots, very light and an excellent place for stickers, its removeable too.

http://kcbx.net/~tsulaiti/fugly/
 

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I've seen a local XC-enduro rider use something like that. They homemade a full downtube lenght fender like that, I think it was Saul Britton who did it. Not the most pimping look, but highly functional, shields cables, BB and derailleur from the front wheel. Excellant for downtube mounted cables. Too bad no front flap that extends forward of the fork to prevent mub and water being kicked up and have on a windy day mud splash back on your face.
 

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I maked a short 6 inch front stubbie fender I just zip tied to the top of the crown for the wet season. Trick is to use plastic that has some rigidity so it holds a shape over time. Seems most fenders are designed for looks or just to keep the rider cleaner, protecting the thousands of dollars one has in the bike seems secondary. Must be they want us to wear out stuff and buy more? I just redid my drivetrain about 6 weeks ago and using the fugly I'm over 250 miles and my sram69 chain is still like new, no noise and clean and I'm in dusty dry California. Fvck the bling I rather ride than spend time maintaining exposed mechanical bits. Have fun!
 

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I maked a short 6 inch front stubbie fender I just zip tied to the top of the crown for the wet season. Trick is to use plastic that has some rigidity so it holds a shape over time. Seems most fenders are designed for looks or just to keep the rider cleaner, protecting the thousands of dollars one has in the bike seems secondary. Must be they want us to wear out stuff and buy more? I just redid my drivetrain about 6 weeks ago and using the fugly I'm over 250 miles and my sram69 chain is still like new, no noise and clean and I'm in dusty dry California. Fvck the bling I rather ride than spend time maintaining exposed mechanical bits. Have fun!
Now I look at the pics again, there's a flap that extents to the back.

Excellant, the closest thing to having heavy full sealed internal meachanics. MTB, especially in wet weather I think is the harshest test of mechanical durability. Paris to Dakar cars, motorbikes and trucks may be put through harsher conditions, but in MTB it's all exposed. Amazing how the bike still is able move with dirt everywhere.

My fenders protect me from the crap, but my front derailleur get caked with the horrible mix of mud and abrasive sand. My bottom running shifter cables are not like Avid sealed types, and they get caked as well.
I just took some pics, but the transfer cable has just sh!t itself.
 

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Sexy italian string bikini VS. Hands off mister!! F***ugly night gown.

Foks,

Does anyone have any other suggestions?

There has got to be a happy medium out there between the way overpriced, "sexy, low coverage, string bikini" Marzocchi and the utilitarian "Hands off mister, you ain't gettin any tonight!! night gown" FUGLY.

In the meantime, I will try to locate a SKS Crusher in a LBS as Tarpon has suggested. Thanks.

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Yeah managed to download from the camera.

Guess where the protection stops...

...this is where Fugly comes into it's own league.
The above is worse than it looks, combine mud, sand (nasty!), downtube running cables, exposed cables and Shitmano 2:1 derailleurs and you get one bad shifting muthafuker.
 

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tequila joe said:
With all the rain we've been getting, there are so many mud puddles out on the trails. I'm getting really tired of eating mud. I don't get fed going through the mud, as I usually go fairly slow. I get it afterwards when I pick up speed and the mud starts to fling. Today, I got a few in the eyes to boot.

I have a 2004 Z1 FR SL and my old Topek Fender does not fit it. My LBS has a Marzocchi Fender in stock for $70 Canadian. (Highway robbery IMO) It seems that this is the only fender that will fit the Z series forks. (Probably explains the high cost)

Although stylish, it looks kinda short both front and back. Certainly a lot smaller than the Topeak. I do not want to dip into the kids' college fund to buy this little thing if it will not keep the muck outta my pie hole.

Anyone use this fender? Fashion or Function?

Tequila
There have been times when i though it would nice to have one. But i never got far enough to buying one. Ill bet a motorcycle shop would have one cheaper but it would take some fabrication to get it to fit.
 

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I bent over forewards for Marzocchi and didn't even get a kiss before the Rogering!

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I use them, they work well and look great!!!
I was in the States last week on business and picked up the itsy bitsy, teeny weeny, black string bikini from Marzocchi at a LBS for $30 US. It worked out to about half the cost of what my LBS were gouging us locals for it so I said "What the heck". I can't believe I went against my own values and supported "The Man" and his over priced bike toys. Damn him! I feel so dirty & used.

I went on a mildly muddy ride today and am happy to report that there were no mud sandwiches served on the trail. The real test will come this weekend in the Kananaskis & Canmore.

Here is "The Mistress" all wet after her shower with her little bikini on. Damn sexy IMO.

Tequila!

BTW: The packaging the fender came in had more plastic content than the fender itself. So, I figure that the majority of the price I paid was to cover the cost of their packaging.
 

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