Marzocchi 888RC2X VS. Fox 40
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another vote for Marz....dependability is worth 4 ouncesJettj45 said:
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check your PM's StinkyStinkyOne said:
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Keep in mind that the 40 uses a titanium spring, so unless you weigh within the stock spring range, you will end up replacing it with a steel spring, making the weight difference even more negligible. Now that the 888 and DH40 have very similar axle-to-crown-heights and similar tunability, I see no reason to consider one fork more "racerish" than the other.
The Fox has exactly 8 inches of travel, not 8.2.
The Fox has exactly 8 inches of travel, not 8.2.
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Personally i didn't like the White lowers when i saw them in person and after they had a few rides on them...Black looks way better
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Yeah a few other differences------
marzocchi weighs their forks without upper crown and steering tube, so it is heavier than the listed weight. They also weigh it with minimum oil. Also that is not actual weight, it is TARGET Weight. My super T was supposed to weigh 7.4 pounds and weighed just around 8 pounds.
About oil, the fox is specifically designed to use small amounts of oil. The bushings actually are a tad loose when the fork has not been used, and then heat up and expand a tiny bit to give a perfect ride. Basically the oil goes up the bushing and is forcibly sprayed all over the interior of the fork. This enables fox to put more weight in the structural integrity of the fork, but it does cost more.
The marzocchi relies on large oil voumes for damping.
The biggest difference is the quality of the damping. Having owned a marzocchi it is very plush feeling at standstill and super progressive. Unfortunetly, it blows through its initial travel at high speeds, but never bottoms because of progressivity. The fox has a consistent damping that is extremely stable and has a firm but not harsh (hard to describe) feeling.
Reliability wise, me and my best bud have had 40's for a full year, including 4 straight weeks in whistler, and they have never had a single problem. And he literally has never made an adjustment other than rebound.
40 is stiffer, lighter by more like 1/2 a pound, and has great damping. 40 also has travel adjustments if u want that (i.e. 6, 6.5, 7, 7.5, 8 inches)
cons== expensive for RC2
888RC2X is cheaper, and probably more dependable? and will take serious abuse.
Bang for buck i would say the zokey is the call for you, but if u want the ultimate, pony it up for a fox. Another for to consider in the same price range of the 888 is the Travis Triple Intrinsic Titanium.
PS> Marzocchis are DEVELOPED(not made) in Italy. BAREL ditched his 888 for a 40 after his contract expired this year!! (check out magazine pics)
marzocchi weighs their forks without upper crown and steering tube, so it is heavier than the listed weight. They also weigh it with minimum oil. Also that is not actual weight, it is TARGET Weight. My super T was supposed to weigh 7.4 pounds and weighed just around 8 pounds.
About oil, the fox is specifically designed to use small amounts of oil. The bushings actually are a tad loose when the fork has not been used, and then heat up and expand a tiny bit to give a perfect ride. Basically the oil goes up the bushing and is forcibly sprayed all over the interior of the fork. This enables fox to put more weight in the structural integrity of the fork, but it does cost more.
The marzocchi relies on large oil voumes for damping.
The biggest difference is the quality of the damping. Having owned a marzocchi it is very plush feeling at standstill and super progressive. Unfortunetly, it blows through its initial travel at high speeds, but never bottoms because of progressivity. The fox has a consistent damping that is extremely stable and has a firm but not harsh (hard to describe) feeling.
Reliability wise, me and my best bud have had 40's for a full year, including 4 straight weeks in whistler, and they have never had a single problem. And he literally has never made an adjustment other than rebound.
40 is stiffer, lighter by more like 1/2 a pound, and has great damping. 40 also has travel adjustments if u want that (i.e. 6, 6.5, 7, 7.5, 8 inches)
cons== expensive for RC2
888RC2X is cheaper, and probably more dependable? and will take serious abuse.
Bang for buck i would say the zokey is the call for you, but if u want the ultimate, pony it up for a fox. Another for to consider in the same price range of the 888 is the Travis Triple Intrinsic Titanium.
PS> Marzocchis are DEVELOPED(not made) in Italy. BAREL ditched his 888 for a 40 after his contract expired this year!! (check out magazine pics)
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man you need to remove your mouth from the nuts of fox
The Fox 40 rc2 is an extraordinarily plush fork when tuned properly , Its definately a #1 race choice for that reason more so than weight. The 888rc2x is obviously the #1 freeride choice as of right now, proven durabilty, ease of adjustments, and plushness have also made it a great choice for racers even though its certainly not the best race fork on the market when you are comparing it to the 40 or Boxxer World Cup.
If I were to buy a new DH bike (Appalache Real has caught my eye) I would probably spend the extra money on the 40 even though I am more of a Marz guy as previously said by most in this thread.
As for the white lowers on the 888, I love 'em.
If I were to buy a new DH bike (Appalache Real has caught my eye) I would probably spend the extra money on the 40 even though I am more of a Marz guy as previously said by most in this thread.
As for the white lowers on the 888, I love 'em.
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888 rc2x....but I have no experience on the fox....I had the 05 888rc for 4 months and the 06 is way different.....Luvin it!
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He already made his decision...j6105 said:
How does place of manufacture have anything to with this? I don't recall anyone bringing that up. PS> Why do my Marzocchis say "MADE IN ITALY" on them? Regardless, place of manufacture does not matter whatsoever.
Barel's switch would be due to his team sponsor obligations, NOT his personal preference.
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A little insight here...
Real weight with a full steer, top crown, stem and axle on the 888 is 8.2lbs on our UPS scale. The Italians were a little optimistic... Or like some else said, missing some parts.
As for Fabian, he is still running Marzocchi for 06. He was running Fox rear shocks, but he has recently been set up with a ROCO.. Tom R. has set one up for him...
Also, most of the Marzocchi forks are still made in Italy. A lot of the less expensive, OEM forks are now made in Taiwan, but all the MX, All Mountain, Z1, 66, 888, Marathon, Dirt Jumpers, and Jr. T are coming out of Italy. And they will continue to for the foreseeable future.
Brian
Real weight with a full steer, top crown, stem and axle on the 888 is 8.2lbs on our UPS scale. The Italians were a little optimistic... Or like some else said, missing some parts.
As for Fabian, he is still running Marzocchi for 06. He was running Fox rear shocks, but he has recently been set up with a ROCO.. Tom R. has set one up for him...
Also, most of the Marzocchi forks are still made in Italy. A lot of the less expensive, OEM forks are now made in Taiwan, but all the MX, All Mountain, Z1, 66, 888, Marathon, Dirt Jumpers, and Jr. T are coming out of Italy. And they will continue to for the foreseeable future.
Brian
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