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Does anyone know the story behind this bike?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3694834563

It's a Marin, but has a Manitou 3 bolted on as a rear suspension. I've seen this on the aluminum Manitou bikes, but not anywhere else. And in Ti?

Did Answer of Doug Bradbury have anything to do with this (I assume so)? Anyone seen one before?
 

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I dont know the story behind them but I have seen Marins like that before. Also with a Mag 21 rear end. I think they were looking for an easy solution to a full suspension bike.
 

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laffeaux said:
Does anyone know the story behind this bike?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3694834563

It's a Marin, but has a Manitou 3 bolted on as a rear suspension. I've seen this on the aluminum Manitou bikes, but not anywhere else. And in Ti?

Did Answer of Doug Bradbury have anything to do with this (I assume so)? Anyone seen one before?
I think Marin and Balance were the only two companies to adopt this "rear fork" suspension thing. It was just the first design and was easy I guess.

"Earthquake" Jake Watson used to race one of those Marins.
 

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Marin licensed the design from Answer/Manitou

Doug Bradbury designed the original while working for Answer. Marin made frames with both aluminum and this Ti version. The rear end's machining on the Marin was not near as nice as the Answer frame, but the Marin was also significantly cheaper.
Way back in 95 when I still had my Answer-made Manitou FS frame, I was staying at a hotel in Mt. Snow at the nationals and we did a side by side comparison with another guy who had the Marin Aluminum version, and before he saw mine he told everyone that Marin purchased the frames from Answer and simply sold the exact frame much cheaper. Both rode similar, with some slight variances in geometry, but the finish on the Manitou was head and shoulder's above Marin's, and the Manitou was close to a pound lighter frame-wise. Welds on the Marin were typical for frames fabricated overseas, functionional but not aesthetically pleasing, meant to do the job but not be expensive. The manitou was a pure work of art, both with the welds and the machining (and maybe twice the price, of course).

In my opinion my Manitou frame was one of the best handling FS bikes of the day. I still miss it sometimes...

Balance's version used the less expensive Answer made Pro Forx.

Doug Bradbury also made a few one-off, Bradbury labeled frames, very rare, and had a custom fabricated wider rear hub.

laffeaux said:
Does anyone know the story behind this bike?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3694834563

It's a Marin, but has a Manitou 3 bolted on as a rear suspension. I've seen this on the aluminum Manitou bikes, but not anywhere else. And in Ti?

Did Answer of Doug Bradbury have anything to do with this (I assume so)? Anyone seen one before?
 

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Doug Bradbury designed the original while working for Answer. Marin made frames with both aluminum and this Ti version. The rear end's machining on the Marin was not near as nice as the Answer frame, but the Marin was also significantly cheaper.
Way back in 95 when I still had my Answer-made Manitou FS frame, I was staying at a hotel in Mt. Snow at the nationals and we did a side by side comparison with another guy who had the Marin Aluminum version, and before he saw mine he told everyone that Marin purchased the frames from Answer and simply sold the exact frame much cheaper. Both rode similar, with some slight variances in geometry, but the finish on the Manitou was head and shoulder's above Marin's, and the Manitou was close to a pound lighter frame-wise. Welds on the Marin were typical for frames fabricated overseas, functionional but not aesthetically pleasing, meant to do the job but not be expensive. The manitou was a pure work of art, both with the welds and the machining (and maybe twice the price, of course).

In my opinion my Manitou frame was one of the best handling FS bikes of the day. I still miss it sometimes...

Balance's version used the less expensive Answer made Pro Forx.

Doug Bradbury also made a few one-off, Bradbury labeled frames, very rare, and had a custom fabricated wider rear hub.
Actually to revise that, Doug designed and was hand-building the FS frames before he hooked up with Answer. Answer was only after his suspension forks at first, and later (starting 1993) started doing his frames also. They had to change a few details with the frames though, like industry standard hub/dropout dimensions instead of the custom ones his hand-built frames had (145mm rear, 115mm front, made for wider flanges/stronger wheels, and he included hubs with the framesets) and they also went to a larger diameter seatttube (1.5" O.D.) that needed a specially modifiied XTR front deraiileur. The frames also took a 31.8 post, that inserted into a shim that was was 1/16th of an inch thick / 3.6" long, that itself sat inside the seattube (again, 1/16th in tubewalls), among other things.

The marin version was available either with a proforx or manitou shock rear end, and the balance version was either an RST or proforx rear end.
 

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More FRS on eBay.fr

For those who would like to buy the Marin version, there's several of them on the french eBay:
eBay

This guy seems to sell all the stock of the former Marin dealer/distributor (frames, jerseys...).

Enjoy,
Francois
 

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This is an old thread but I had to reply. I used to have the original Manitou bike circa 94. I still have a 97 frame. I met with some guy in Palos Verdes, CA to go riding. That was back when there was an undeveloped area by the beach the locals called funland. A nice place to practice your jumps and technical skills. He had one of those Marin FS knockoffs that he just bought from Supergo. We switched bikes to see how the other felt and I can honestly say it felt like crap. It's definitely not the same bike rebadged. It's the obvious difference between a handmade custom frame and one made in China. Very rough, basic construction, no cnc like the Manitou and it creaked like hell. It was also flexy as a wet noodle and didn't seem to track well. To top it off, he taco'd the front wheel going down a hill, which probably has more to do with the way the wheel was built than the bike itself. It was cheaper though. I think by half.
 

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Marin dual

Marin used the "twin shock" set up like Manitou, as did Balance and one or two other companies in the mid 90's.

 

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mik_git said:
there some purple going on there...
Looks like a Ringlé seatpost and headset, Answer Hyperend barends, and Adventure Components RaceBraces on the front and rear shocks. Can't tell what the skewers are from the picture angle. The AC braces are the easy part for me, I have the same color one on the back of my '95 Manitou FS-DH frame.
 
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