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I've kind of started DHing more now. I rode at seven springs and snowshoe with clipless and never had a problem but everyone seems to ride flats so I figured I'd give them a shot and see what all they're all about.

I've got to buy everything online since my local stores dont really carry much. So I had a couple questions

I know fivetens are pretty much the gold standard for shoes. Is the sizing pretty much the same as normal shoes or do they run small or larger.

Anyone got a recommendation for a pedal? I'm not a weight weenie and care about 50g and I'm not gonna do 20ft drops so strength isnt a big deal. Just looking for something to give switching to flats a good trial.

Any advice for the actual switch? I'm stuck in the midwest so I pretty much have no DH. I have a trip planned to whistler later this year. I figured just ride them XC as much as I can and go ride.

Thanks

Also any recommended place to buy stuff. I've been watching chainlove but havent seen much in terms of shoes or pedals.
 

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Chainreaction is a decent site. For pedals I'd look at something like the deity decoy for something good that's reasonably priced. If you want the high standard of pedals look at the straightlines. 5.10's seem to run pretty close to size, maybe just a little bit big.
 

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Yeah, Decoy's are a great low profile pedal as well as Premium Slim's, Kona Wah Wah's, Atomlab's, Gravity Light's...The only thing I've noticed with 5.10 sizing is the amount of padding on the tongue, which can make them feel a bit snug if you like to wear thick socks. It wears in over time though so that's not a big issue.
 

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yeah CRC is the shop to go!! 5ten size:
my feet is 29.2cm US11.5 EU45 perfect size!
i run for years the wellgo mag1 now in morzine i broke one and buy a prodigy 15mm slim this is a biger pedal but worlds better than the small wellgo... i think bigger is better... but this model is under others brand on the market..
 

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I switched over the last year from clipless to flats for my DH riding, and pretty succesfully.

Even though, against all advice, I still ride clipless for XC riding (mostly).

I started with cheap-azz pedals ($30 local) and cheap mid-ride work-boots with a decent sole (that I found at a big box store) just to see if I *COULD* make the switch. I figured that if I started riding them and got anywhere okay that spending on real equipment would be worthwhile. I rode with that setup from Sept last through Feb, mostly for XC/AM riding though as with winter going on not much DH was happening.

I got pretty comfortable with them, even without shin-guards, and it was nice to not have a shoe-cleat sapping heat from my feet when it was below freezing outside.

In the spring I went with Great Pedals (Straitline) and 5:10 Impact2 shoes (high tops) and I've been super-happy with the combination.

The two things that have been the hardest things for me to learn when switching over were ledge/rock/down-tree climbing (requires more finesse and setup), and getting confortable dropping ledges/rocks and hitting jumps - it just took a while to figure out how to comfortably stay "attached enough" to the bike so I pretty much always land feet-on-pedal.

So, be patient, and it'll work out, for sure.
 

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ive just got the superstar version of both those pedals pictured (they are all pretty much the same, just find the cheapest one, made in the same factory i think im right in saying)
they are all 17mm thick which is very thin. good grip, and very dependable.
 

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bxxer rider said:
ive just got the superstar version of both those pedals pictured (they are all pretty much the same, just find the cheapest one, made in the same factory i think im right in saying)
they are all 17mm thick which is very thin. good grip, and very dependable.
You're safe saying that. They're all made by HT Components
 

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Kona Wah Wahs are a good choice. I've got Azonic 4:20s, but I have not run them yet (waiting for new cranks). Generally, I think pedals are somewhat disposable, so don't spend a fortune on them. Spend the $ on 5.10s instead, they will make all flats good (maybe not 50/50s, but most real flat pedals).
 

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I'm looking at jensonusa to buy the shoes.

And they dont have the kona's but they have DMR V12 which seem to have pretty good reviews on here

anyone think that this would be a bad setup?
 

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I made the switch to platforms last year (rode clipless since Shimano released the first MTB specific clipless shoe/pedal combo) and honestly it wasn't that difficult of a switch. After some recommendations from people on here and on STR, I bought a set of cheap pedals (went with the Wellgo MG1's), some Marzocchi Bomber shoes (rebadged 5.10 Impacts), and some TLD knee/shins to prevent the dreaded shinburgers. IMHO, good shoes and pedals will make the switch easier. The only real problem I had during the switch was trying to bunnyhop over obstacles since over the years I had developed the bad habit of pulling up on the pedals versus properly weight shifting the bike to bunnyhop. Getting over that was just a matter of practice. After that, it was all downhill from there...

I recently upgraded to a set of Straitline pedals and IMHO they are worth the price of admission. With the 5.10 Stealth Rubber soles they *almost* feel like you're riding clipless. I am absolutely SOLD on riding platforms now, and even though I still have a set of SPD pedals and shoes, I don't think i'd ever go back to riding on them. Anyway, good luck on the transition...
 

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ok I found a place that has
the deity decoys and the straightlines and the five tens

Im leaning towards the straightlines
im going to whistler I might as well bring the good stuff (its only like 50$ more)

im buying them tonight before I go to sleep
so if anyone has some last words
I appreciate all the advice so far
 

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Don't know what you've read on straightlines yet. If you do manage to bend a spindle, DON'T scrap the pedals. Talk to straightline or your local shop and get some replacements. Everything in the pardal is replaceable including bushings and bearings.
 

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Don't know what you've read on straightlines yet. If you do manage to bend a spindle, DON'T scrap the pedals. Talk to straightline or your local shop and get some replacements. Everything in the pardal is replaceable including bushings and bearings.
pretty much everything Ive read makes them sound great
got about another hour before I order if anyone thinks of something better
 

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Straightline's are great pedals, got plenty of friends running them.
 

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My 2c, get the decoys. In my experience i felt like you get better traction on the pedals from full threaded pins like the decoys have as opposed to the "hex pins" the straightlines use.
When you are pinned over some choppy **** riding DH, the pins grip better. The others might be fine for dirt jumping or street riding but i lean towards full threaded pins.
 

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I got the straightlines and five tens
and they have definetly been the best flat+shoe setup ive done
(i still call BS on any of that "its like riding clipless")

anyways
on the DH stuff that I have in the shithole midwest
Im pretty comfortable with them
I just try to stay kind of light on the pedals
so if the bike hits a bump up i just try to absorb it with my legs
and if the bike drops away from me i just push down
hope thats kind of the right idea cause it seems to work

now my question is for jumps
if you did what i said above you wouldnt get any air you'd pretty much be rolling them
im sure its probably natural after a while but i
1) dont want to start any bad habbits
2) the first time have an oh **** moment and nail my shin into one of my pedals or lose my bike mid air

so i guess my question's just what are you trying to do with you legs/feet when you jump

thanks for the tips so far
its been a decent transition
 

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I've kind of started DHing more now. I rode at seven springs and snowshoe with clipless and never had a problem but everyone seems to ride flats so I figured I'd give them a shot and see what all they're all about.

I've got to buy everything online since my local stores dont really carry much. So I had a couple questions

I know fivetens are pretty much the gold standard for shoes. Is the sizing pretty much the same as normal shoes or do they run small or larger.

Anyone got a recommendation for a pedal? I'm not a weight weenie and care about 50g and I'm not gonna do 20ft drops so strength isnt a big deal. Just looking for something to give switching to flats a good trial.

Any advice for the actual switch? I'm stuck in the midwest so I pretty much have no DH. I have a trip planned to whistler later this year. I figured just ride them XC as much as I can and go ride.

Thanks

Also any recommended place to buy stuff. I've been watching chainlove but havent seen much in terms of shoes or pedals.
a good hightop basketball shoe will give you enough grip ...fivetens have a lot of grip but I still have problems trying to get off my pedals with basketball shoes (nike flights)

pedals try the azonic 410's...light, durable, thin and they last
 

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Ive got the answer rove's on my bike and i love them my fit stick to the pedals and dont slip even in super wet conditions( like my race this past weekend ) my feet stayed planted. as for the 5.10's i dopnt have any experience with them so i cant say..
 
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