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Making a 27.5/26 mullet out of 2006 Jamis?

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Have a 2006-ish 26" Jamis Dragon. Front shock is equally as old (SID) and in need of some almost non-existent parts. So got me thinking of just buying another. Which got me thinking about a mullet since 27.5 stuff seems more available than 26".

The Jamis set up with the factory 100mm Fox32 has a HA of 70.5 and Seat angle of 74. Non-tapered steerer, hydraulic disc brakes.

I've read up on changing over and how it could raise the front end more than desired. So my first thought was finding a 80mm 27.5 fork to offset the extra tire meat. But that seems to limit one to cheap Suntour forks only. I did find a rough estimation in an old article that said for every 20mm of added travel, reduces the HA by 1 degree. With my factory HA being 70.5, it seems I have a little play room. A 100mm travel 27.5 non-tapered seems to have a little more options as far as forks go. Maybe putting the HA in the 68-ish range once you add increased tire size.

I know axle to crown measurements also factor in, but those are tough to find unless you have the fork in-hand.

Anyone done a 27.5/26 mullet on an older frame and have some insight? Or maybe someone with more geometry sense to shed some light. Am I onto something that could work, or am I misunderstanding everything and should just buy an old used 26" ROCKSHOX off eBay for $300+ and hope it doesn't break?

Since riding style/location plays a role. Mostly just single track/trail. Roots, some rocks, sand, short hills with incline and decline.
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Have a 2006-ish 26" Jamis Dragon. Front shock is equally as old (SID) and in need of some almost non-existent parts. So got me thinking of just buying another. Which got me thinking about a mullet since 27.5 stuff seems more available than 26".

The Jamis set up with the factory 100mm Fox32 has a HA of 70.5 and Seat angle of 74. Non-tapered steerer, hydraulic disc brakes.

I've read up on changing over and how it could raise the front end more than desired. So my first thought was finding a 80mm 27.5 fork to offset the extra tire meat. But that seems to limit one to cheap Suntour forks only. I did find a rough estimation in an old article that said for every 20mm of added travel, reduces the HA by 1 degree. With my factory HA being 70.5, it seems I have a little play room. A 100mm travel 27.5 non-tapered seems to have a little more options as far as forks go. Maybe putting the HA in the 68-ish range once you add increased tire size.

I know axle to crown measurements also factor in, but those are tough to find unless you have the fork in-hand.

Anyone done a 27.5/26 mullet on an older frame and have some insight? Or maybe someone with more geometry sense to shed some light. Am I onto something that could work, or am I misunderstanding everything and should just buy an old used 26" ROCKSHOX off eBay for $300+ and hope it doesn't break?

Since riding style/location plays a role. Mostly just single track/trail. Roots, some rocks, sand, short hills with incline and decline.
Those dragons are nice frames!
The straight steer tube is probobly going to end the project.. I dont think a good or even descent option is out there.
Id get a 120 open bath marzocchi and ride it another 20 yrs!!
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Have a 2006-ish 26" Jamis Dragon. Front shock is equally as old (SID) and in need of some almost non-existent parts. So got me thinking of just buying another. Which got me thinking about a mullet since 27.5 stuff seems more available than 26".

The Jamis set up with the factory 100mm Fox32 has a HA of 70.5 and Seat angle of 74. Non-tapered steerer, hydraulic disc brakes.

I've read up on changing over and how it could raise the front end more than desired. So my first thought was finding a 80mm 27.5 fork to offset the extra tire meat. But that seems to limit one to cheap Suntour forks only. I did find a rough estimation in an old article that said for every 20mm of added travel, reduces the HA by 1 degree. With my factory HA being 70.5, it seems I have a little play room. A 100mm travel 27.5 non-tapered seems to have a little more options as far as forks go. Maybe putting the HA in the 68-ish range once you add increased tire size.

I know axle to crown measurements also factor in, but those are tough to find unless you have the fork in-hand.

Anyone done a 27.5/26 mullet on an older frame and have some insight? Or maybe someone with more geometry sense to shed some light. Am I onto something that could work, or am I misunderstanding everything and should just buy an old used 26" ROCKSHOX off eBay for $300+ and hope it doesn't break?

Since riding style/location plays a role. Mostly just single track/trail. Roots, some rocks, sand, short hills with incline and decline.
or I may have a sid thats working ill check my storage
If your interested
Just rebuild the SID, looks to me like the parts are available and it's all just o-rings anyway.

With a longer fork, the problem isn't so much the slacking of the head angle as the raising of the BB, IMO.
or I may have a sid thats working ill check my storage
If your interested
Yea, let me know please.
I did that to my hardtail. The extra 20mm is awesome. Slacking the head angle is also good thing.
I spent some time and quite a bit of money this summer restomodding an FSR from the 90s. Even with a custom angleset (-1.5 deg) and 130mm fork (vs 100mm), it still only got down to 68 deg. Of course I did raise the backend with more travel there too . . . It was a fun project, I learned an immense amount about bicycle mechanicing, standards, building and fabbing shock links, etc, so I not trying to discourage you, but if you don't have a bunch of parts on the shelf to reuse it'll probably cost more than you want it to.
Just rebuild the SID, looks to me like the parts are available and it's all just o-rings anyway.

With a longer fork, the problem isn't so much the slacking of the head angle as the raising of the BB, IMO.
Yea, seems like I could find the seal, but the lockout knob is busted. So would like to replace that as well. Also, the SID is 80mm, so kind of would like to get it back to the original 100mm. So that brought me to looking for a new fork, then into the mullet idea. If I remember correctly the BB height is listed at 11.75 or 295-ish online. Think it's a tad more than that with the Maxxis 2.3s, but could be wrong. I agree though, something I didn't think too much about, and don't want it raising too much.
I spent some time and quite a bit of money this summer restomodding an FSR from the 90s. Even with a custom angleset (-1.5 deg) and 130mm fork (vs 100mm), it still only got down to 68 deg. Of course I did raise the backend with more travel there too . . . It was a fun project, I learned an immense amount about bicycle mechanicing, standards, building and fabbing shock links, etc, so I not trying to discourage you, but if you don't have a bunch of parts on the shelf to reuse it'll probably cost more than you want it to.
It's a hardtail, so less to mess with. A new to me fork is almost a given in the near future, so aside from that, all I can think of is the 27.5 wheel and tire. Think I could borrow one of those to test it out, and then if it rides like trash, give the wheel back, and sell the fork. I'll for sure lose money, but the idea of mulletizing the forgotten 26" is intriguing.
You could just run a 26" in a 27.5" fork, too. You'd get less front-end hike that way.
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Have a 2006-ish 26" Jamis Dragon. Front shock is equally as old (SID) and in need of some almost non-existent parts. So got me thinking of just buying another. Which got me thinking about a mullet since 27.5 stuff seems more available than 26".

The Jamis set up with the factory 100mm Fox32 has a HA of 70.5 and Seat angle of 74. Non-tapered steerer, hydraulic disc brakes.

I've read up on changing over and how it could raise the front end more than desired. So my first thought was finding a 80mm 27.5 fork to offset the extra tire meat. But that seems to limit one to cheap Suntour forks only. I did find a rough estimation in an old article that said for every 20mm of added travel, reduces the HA by 1 degree. With my factory HA being 70.5, it seems I have a little play room. A 100mm travel 27.5 non-tapered seems to have a little more options as far as forks go. Maybe putting the HA in the 68-ish range once you add increased tire size.

I know axle to crown measurements also factor in, but those are tough to find unless you have the fork in-hand.

Anyone done a 27.5/26 mullet on an older frame and have some insight? Or maybe someone with more geometry sense to shed some light. Am I onto something that could work, or am I misunderstanding everything and should just buy an old used 26" ROCKSHOX off eBay for $300+ and hope it doesn't break?

Since riding style/location plays a role. Mostly just single track/trail. Roots, some rocks, sand, short hills with incline and decline.
I have a DragonSlayer it's heavy, its metal, its SLX and everytime I get on it (which is everyday) it gets lighter than the advertised 32 pounds.
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