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I'm currently in the market for a new set of brakes. Right now I've narrowed down my choices to the XTR 4-pot ($350 for a set, resin pads and no rotors) and the Magura MT7 ($400, no rotors and non-metallic pads).

I've been using Zee's for 5 years now and would want something with better modulation and power. However, what I'm really keen on is better*reliability*as I don't like my bite point to wander and my lever feel to change, which happened many times on my Zee's.

Hope someone here has tried both and can give me some good advice!*:)

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If you want consistency where the brake feels the same every time then check out TRP Quadiem brakes.

I haven’t used the XTR brakes but I do have the MT7s, which are super powerful. They have no pad-rotor clearance though so they audibly rub, which messes with my head especially while grinding up a long climb.

TRP Quadiem current thread:
https://forums.mtbr.com/brake-time/trp-quadiem-review-rider-non-g-spec-1102932.html
 

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I've tried TRP's on a friend's bike a couple of times, definitely a different feel to it. I don't hate it but I'm not in love with it either.

Reliability is a big deal for me though, so maybe the feel might grow on me. The new black ones look good too.

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Shimano can be fixed by any shop. This is important if you are traveling and need parts. We had a hope brake need a bleed and no shop could help on the trip. ended up with an XT rear brake.

XTR 4 pot brakes are very very good. Mine have been reliable with no brake pump.
 

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Shimano can be fixed by any shop. This is important if you are traveling and need parts. We had a hope brake need a bleed and no shop could help on the trip. ended up with an XT rear brake.

XTR 4 pot brakes are very very good. Mine have been reliable with no brake pump.
Thanks for the input. Brake wrenching is also a factor, for sure. Most bike mechanics in my part of town won't even bother looking at a brake if it isn't Shimano. I just felt that if the MT7's are truly reliable, I can swing by the other side of the city around once a year to have the brake serviced.

I'm actually leaning more towards the XTR 4-pots now. :)
 

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Which rear derailleur, crank and shifting levers do you have now?
If they're not XTR, you don't need XTR brakes, because XT BR-M8120 and SLX BR-M7120 have exactly the same aluminum calipers, ceramic pistons and levers + improved modulation vs. Saint/Zee (as per Shimano). Just different paint job, some weight difference (less material removed on the part that attaches the levers to the bar vs. XTR) and no free-stroke adjustment screw for SLX, that anyways nobody needs.
 

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I haven't used either.

But, the current price point on the TRP Quadiems ($205 for both front and rear, no rotors) encouraged me to pick them up, and I've been really happy with them. Perfectly consistent so far, lots of modulation and I guess I'll let you know about reliability farther down the line. They've only been on the bike for a few weeks now.

Also, you say you want more power than a Zee? And Zee's are effectively just budget Saints, which are heralded as being one of the most powerful brakes out there? I understand you saying more modulation, something they're not known for, but power? Thats a bit surprising, and basically removes any non-DH specific brake from consideration IMO.

I hear good things about SRAM Codes in terms of power and reliability, but I haven't used those either. Have you looked into them yet?
 

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If modulation is what you are after Magura or Formula Cura 4.

That being said, modulation is great if you are open to a different feel than a Zee/Shimano which tends to be a bit on/off in feel in my experience (as in brake engaged/not engaged).

Do you wrench on your own brakes as far as bleeds or do you take them to an LBS?

That might be a factor to consider as far as spares, etc.

I don't think you can really go wrong with most brakes right now. Is really a matter of whether you place value in DOT vs mineral oil, 4 piston vs 2 piston, lever/modulation feel, etc.

I ran Zee for a year or two and they were great.

I prefer the feel of Magura to Zee and recently switched over to Formula as they feel more natural to me than the Zee or Magura but that is a nebulous thing and very individual in nature.
 

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I don't do any maintenance on my brakes which is why I'm leaning towards the XTR at the moment. There are so few bike shops with the experience and knowledge to work on anything other than Shimano brakes.


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I've put in two proper rides on the new XTRs. I'll just say AWESOME. Enough modulation to not throw you over the bike when you need to stop.

MT7s are powerful and that modulation is great...... my guess is set up correctly it comes down to lever and brake feel. Getting the MT7s set up well is key....Shimanos are dummy proof. Magura....you need someone who really knows how to bleed these well.
 

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