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Ok it looks like this forum is lacking in content. I don't know about you guys but constant discussions about disc brake rotors, and alloy bolts is kinda boring. I hope this sparks some cool conversations or inspires someone to posts something other than how to measure bolt sizes.

The bike is a size "M" w/ slightly modified build. The top tube length is 22.5" instead of 22.25" stock length, I had the cables routed on the 4 oclock and 7 oclock position of the top tube and had them drill a drain hole for me. All the other dimensions are the same as listed on the website.

https://www.lynskeyperformance.com/a/pages/2009-products/mountain/houseblend-m230.php

The finish I chose was satin finish as I feel this is the most durable of all finishes they offer. The only thing I pondered was getting the logos etched into the frame, but that was a rather expensive option so I stuck with decals instead.

The goal originally was sub 16.5 lbs race ready w/ a 100mm fork, but every single part I've purchased to this date for this build has been over the claimed weight. So I'm projecting under 17lbs ready to race w/ two cages and pedals. I also gave instructions to the Lynskey team to make it as light as they can.

Here is the result 1343g w/ Level 2 tubing.










The so called "dent" for Fork Crown clearence that everyone thinks is ugly... You can barely tell it is there!

So why I chose Lynksey Performance:

I always wanted a Litespeed when I was a kid. I could never afford such extravagances doing a paper route or landscaping. When I heard that the Lynskey family was restarting a Titanium bicycle company that got me thinking about my final bicycle purchase to add to my collection.

Yes I do already have a fast light FS race bike (the Kona Hei Hei Supreme), but the allure of Titanium is strong and this is what I wanted ever since I saw what a mountain bike was in the early 90s. I still view Ti as the epitome of bicycle frame material even with the advent of carbon fibre.

In terms of build of the bicycle, I knew that if I was getting a Ti frame must have the following:
-Breezer Style Dropouts
-Disc mount only
-shaped oversized tubing
-light
Which is what the M230 stock frame offered. The M220 (2007 hardtail Lynksey frame) didn't really interest me much because it lacked the Breezer Dropouts.

I had investigated about getting a Titanium hardtail even before I got my Kona Hei Hei Supreme Full Suspension that I built up between the winter of 2007&2008. The choices were:
-Independent Fabrications
-Kent Eriksen
-Seven
-Used Litespeed or Moots off of ebay

Lynskey wasn't even on the list until I heard they had started up shop again. I chose Lynskey in the end, because Litespeed at the time was the best at shaping tubing, and to create a stiff bike I believe that correctly shaping your downtube to optimize the shape factor near the BB and the Head Tube is what makes a stiff bike. Plus it helped they were having a sale! Too bad the Canadian Dollar tanked just as their sale started...

Right now I'm stoaked about this frame. It is 99% perfect, the last 1% is if it was even lighter. I guess the only way to get lighter is if you can find someone to build you a Ti Frame w/ Reynolds 6/4 butted Ti tubing (which is rumored that Reynolds can't even supply it anymore).
 

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Excellent :thumbsup: Be sure to post pics once the build is complete.

Lynskey is definitely on my short list for my next frame:cornut:
 

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Very nice frame! I definitely grew up in the era of which you speak, where people lusted after Litespeeds and the like, hence I ride a ti hardtail (but of a lesser marque)...

Anyways, what's the story with satin finish? Is it the same as "brushed" titanium finish? I don't know if it's the pictures, but your frame does not look very shiny....almost looks matte.
 

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Reg sale price is 1695 USD. I paid 300 dollars to upgrade it to what you see.
How come every price at the bottom of the spec page is near double what you paid? :???:

That frame is worth more than every thing pictured in your kitchen!!:eekster:

Also, how did you get them to make it a custom size, just ordered it like that?
 

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Very nice ...

it looks really sweet, I hope you get it down to 17lbs.

You could have dropped the extra tube bracing the CS and SS by the disc mount, to save a few grams, I'm not sure if I'd notice a difference in stiffness during braking.
 

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Very nice, a good Ti hardtail is a great option in the bike quiver. I'd be pretty happy with the weight actually, thats not bad. Plus this is a frame you will probably be giving to one of your kids many years from now. So what's the part spec look like?
 

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nice!

speaking of Lynskey...thinking about this one as my next project. Made for On One which have the perfect geo IMHO. Sorry to be such an On One whore but i cant help it :) might order a few in fact and sell the others..just cant decide if i want the SS specific or one with der hanger (still with slot dropout for option)

 

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evan811 said:
How come every price at the bottom of the spec page is near double what you paid? :???:

That frame is worth more than every thing pictured in your kitchen!!:eekster:

Also, how did you get them to make it a custom size, just ordered it like that?
ya i know!

The M230 page is for their regular priced configurations. 1695 is the base price right now and if you want more options you have to email them and inquire.

Basically all you do is just email them and say you are interested in a frame. I called a couple of times and corresponded via email to nail down what I wanted. Canada does not have any dealers so I dealt with the factory directly. It might be different in the USA if they want you to deal with a dealer. However I'm of the impression that a sale is a sale, and there is no way they are going to turn down a sale for you to deal with a dealer.

Lynskey is having the promotion sale as I think they started their shop right at the height of economic times before all the financial and mortgage crisis hit. Last time I talked to them and asked how the sale was going and if there were a lot of purchases... Apprenently a lof of the sales is coming from overseas in Asian, not so much in USA, and very few in Canada. They were also selling their cyclocross frame the most.
 

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Very nice, a good Ti hardtail is a great option in the bike quiver. I'd be pretty happy with the weight actually, thats not bad. Plus this is a frame you will probably be giving to one of your kids many years from now. So what's the part spec look like?
Ok fine... since so many have asked (including PMs), I was going to make it a surprise. Here is the parts spec. All items in Green I already purchased or have. What I don't have is brakes, pedals, headset, wheels. Also the items in green are real weights weighed on the table top scale.

Speaking of wheels, I'm open to suggestions. I can't find the Acros .54 Ceramic hubs anywhere. BTI is the distributor and they don't even stock the regular hubs. I want Jeremy over at Alchemy Bicycle Works to build my wheels this time, and he can't find the hubs anywhere. He used to be the Tune distributor for USA, but no longer is, so even getting Tune hubs is difficult. My backup plan is Notubes ZTR Race. I'm 165 lbs (a little heavier with beer and x-mas gatherings, and the trails I ride are literally groomed XC race courses only).

 

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Cheers! said:
Ok fine... since so many have asked (including PMs), I was going to make it a surprise. Here is the parts spec. All items in Green I already purchased or have. What I don't have is brakes, pedals, headset, wheels. Also the items in green are real weights weighed on the table top scale.

Speaking of wheels, I'm open to suggestions. I can't find the Acros .54 Ceramic hubs anywhere. BTI is the distributor and they don't even stock the regular hubs. I want Jeremy over at Alchemy Bicycle Works to build my wheels this time, and he can't find the hubs anywhere. He used to be the Tune distributor for USA, but no longer is, so even getting Tune hubs is difficult. My backup plan is Notubes ZTR Race. I'm 165 lbs (a little heavier with beer and x-mas gatherings, and the trails I ride are literally groomed XC race courses only).

Looks like an awesome build! Dunno if this is a good price but...

https://www.ride-this.com/index.php/default/acros-54-disc-hubs.html
 

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thanks for the comments.

Amillmtb: Yes that is a good price. Those ones you listed are for the standard versions. There are two higher models: Ceramics, and Ceramic Ultmates. The 2nd from the top "ceramics" drop the weight quite a bit, it is unknown what the pricing is for this version as I believe it uses hybrid bearings with steel races and ceramic balls (I think). I did find out how much the Ceramic Ultimates cost, they are the top end .54 Acros hubs.

ACROS .54 Ceramic Ultimate (front = 448.00 euros, rear = $798.00 euros), and I'm not 100% sure what is changed between this ultimate version and the next step down which is the "Ceramic" edition. The website is vague regarding the information. Which is quite unfortunate as websites serve as a excellent means of advertisement. Generally people who go to lengths to research your product are already pretty serious about buying them or have the said money to purchase them and it should be the job of the manufacturer to win the sale right there and then.

Anyhow... I might have scored a set of Tune King Kong in 28h front, 32h rear in silver. Replacing the easy to replace bearings with Enduro ceramic hybrids should drop the weight ever so little with minimal extra cost.
 

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Cheers! said:
thanks for the comments.

Amillmtb: Yes that is a good price. Those ones you listed are for the standard versions. There are two higher models: Ceramics, and Ceramic Ultmates. The 2nd from teh stop "ceramics" drop the weight quite a bit, it is unknown what the pricing is for this version as I believe it uses hybrid bearings with steel races and ceramic balls (I think). I did find out how much the Ceramic Ultimates cost, they are the top end .54 Acros hubs.

ACROS .54 Ceramic Ultimate (front = 448.00 euros, rear = $798.00 euros), and I'm not 100% sure what is changed between this ultimate version and the next step down which is the "Ceramic" edition. The website is vague regarding the information. Which is quite unfortunate as websites serve as a excellent means of advertisement. Generally people who go to lengths to research your product are already pretty serious about buying them or have the said money to purchase them and it should be the job of the manufacturer to win the sale right there and then.

Anyhow... I might have scored a set of Tune King Kong in 28h front, 32h rear in silver. Replacing the easy to replace bearings with Enduro ceramic hybrids should drop the weight ever so little with minimal extra cost.
Oh, sorry I didnt know that those wernt ceramic. Nice job getting the Tune hubs, they are really hard to find here in the US, and they are pretty pricey. You could see if anyone in these forums who lives in Europe will ship the Acros to you...There was someone in the CDale forums who has done that before.
 
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