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Really I am that slow
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Just wanted in introduce myself...I'm from Denver and ride a bit on fixie's. You guys are the defacto experts on snow bikes and such... I may run into snags and jsut wanted to introduce myself before I ran into trouble

Here's the start....

Project Yellow Snow.......

A cheaper fixie snow bike with 3.7 tires....

I have...

An old humahumakuna'apua frame that I had set up as a 29er for a bit. It well fit an surly endomorph tire with some cold forging (2x4's and a Hammer) and playing around with crank and bb length

I ordered today.....

Surly pugs fork 100mm, 2x large marge rims the heavy cheaps ones (may drill them out myself to loose a bit of wight), 2x Endomorph 3.7 tires (not cheap!!!), 3x surly's tubes (i think I could use those for tubing down cherry creek. 398gram tube!)

Prob a phil rear hub, whatever I can find for the front, gonna set up a oh crap front canti brake, gearing well be prob 28x18 to start with, Maybe a 31" moto bar

wondering if I should powder coat the frame/fork green then the rims yellow?

What is this for you ask?

Well to have fun at my folks place this winter

To go play with Dave in Diggs and Jay P in Jan up in WY

And maybe the Ultra 350 the end of Feb in AK
 

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Cool,
Yeah lets talk snow bikes! I’m already thinking about my set up for this year!!

My $.02 would be to set up an emergency rear brake instead of front. Brakes are of minimal use in the winter. Lots of folks, myself included, run only a single rear brake for winter riding. I’m sure there are lots of reasons for this, from weight savings to fashion (ie all the cool winter bikers remove the front brake). For me I tend to find that even thinking about using the front brake makes my front tire break loose, its really of no use to me. On the other hand rear wheel skids work really well. So you might just need a rear brake to help you into a skid.

Also, are you aware how heavy these things can be? I’ve never ridden a fixe so I don’t know if heavy wheels and bikes make it harder to ride/stop/control, (it seems like this would matter but maybe not) but when you are all loaded up for an overnight you should expect the set up to weight from 40-60lbs. So plan accordingly.

I use the heavy surly rims and tubes, I figure the place to save weight in the winter is on your gear not your bike. Its a winter bike, it’ll be heavy. So I wouldn’t worry about the weight too much, unless your into that sort of thing then knock yourself out.

The biggest part of your project is going to be making the tires fit. But I’m sure its doable. Have you seen Pat Irwin’s “Porky”, as posted on this forum? He did a similair project where he manipulated the stays of a pink surly 1x1 to fit endos on large marges. it seems to have worked well. Do a search, or maybe Pat will post up some pics.

Good luck and keep us posted
Adam
 

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no brakes?

Some of the best, funnest, riding is in the hills and, for that, you will want 2 brakes, preferably disc. If you just torment yourself by interminable river rides minimalist brakes are fine. If you ride on any interesting terrain at all you will want good brakes - or at least to provide you riding partner with good video gear so you can relive the spectacular crashing that is likely to follow . . . .
 

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Adam said:
Cool,
Yeah lets talk snow bikes! I'm already thinking about my set up for this year!!

My $.02 would be to set up an emergency rear brake instead of front. Brakes are of minimal use in the winter. Lots of folks, myself included, run only a single rear brake for winter riding. I'm sure there are lots of reasons for this, from weight savings to fashion (ie all the cool winter bikers remove the front brake). For me I tend to find that even thinking about using the front brake makes my front tire break loose, its really of no use to me. On the other hand rear wheel skids work really well. So you might just need a rear brake to help you into a skid.

Also, are you aware how heavy these things can be? I've never ridden a fixe so I don't know if heavy wheels and bikes make it harder to ride/stop/control, (it seems like this would matter but maybe not) but when you are all loaded up for an overnight you should expect the set up to weight from 40-60lbs. So plan accordingly.

I use the heavy surly rims and tubes, I figure the place to save weight in the winter is on your gear not your bike. Its a winter bike, it'll be heavy. So I wouldn't worry about the weight too much, unless your into that sort of thing then knock yourself out.

The biggest part of your project is going to be making the tires fit. But I'm sure its doable. Have you seen Pat Irwin's "Porky", as posted on this forum? He did a similair project where he manipulated the stays of a pink surly 1x1 to fit endos on large marges. it seems to have worked well. Do a search, or maybe Pat will post up some pics.

Good luck and keep us posted
Adam
I've seen Pat's part of what gave me the idea of using what I had laying around =) the heavy wheels are a bit on a concern but not too big..... I've done plenty of riding with 40-60 lbs of gear so i'm semi used to it (at least without all the white stuff)

Thanks guys and i'll post some pics when there is something to show =)
 

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One thing that I'm sure you've already thought about is the miles and miles of quality bike pushing you will do..
With a fixie those pedals are going to be turning and likely hitting your legs alot or digging into the snow more than you'd want.
Just something to think about.
 

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Bearbait said:
One thing that I'm sure you've already thought about is the miles and miles of quality bike pushing you will do..
With a fixie those pedals are going to be turning and likely hitting your legs alot or digging into the snow more than you'd want.
Just something to think about.
I figgure I walked a good 80 miles out 837 I got done on the gdr this year so kinna used to it....

Another reson to go with a wide handlebar:)
 

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Stroganof said:
Some of the best, funnest, riding is in the hills and, for that, you will want 2 brakes, preferably disc. If you just torment yourself by interminable river rides minimalist brakes are fine. If you ride on any interesting terrain at all you will want good brakes - or at least to provide you riding partner with good video gear so you can relive the spectacular crashing that is likely to follow . . . .
So what'er ya sayin' there stroh boy? That I'm only half braked. Ha ha.

Although I have to admit that when I ride the trails here in town I ride my dual braked bike to zipp around.

Adam
 

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Used a vise and some 2x4's to make the tire fit ie bent the s**** outa the rear triangle. Its pretty stright though :D

I'll have some more pictures later got it all togather today who woulda thunk I can spin this beast up to 12-13mph with 22x16 gearing:p
 

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any close ups?

Im seriously gonna hunt me down one of those frames and try that..Ive got the large marges as a spare wheelset for my sheep in the winter time, but i can only fit a 2.7 timberwolf in the rear...I need endos in the rear.....Im afraid im gonna destroy the frame though.(kona not sheep).Oh well its worth a shot..Way to go-----you made it work...:thumbsup:
 

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Too flexi fllyer

well green mt. was interesting tonight. my driveside crank arm started to hit the chainstay.... and then started to drop my chain alot...... well looks like the frame is way out of alinement gonna see if I can get it dailed again and reinforce it some how?

Gonna sleep on it and see if I have some more ideas...
 
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