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Please keep your eyes peeled for a lost Poodle at Tiger Mt. If you see her or hear anything from anyone else, please call Diane at 312-330-2751. She bolted in front of 2 riders heading down the road between Preston and NW Timber a few days ago and hasn't been seen since. Here is a photo and the message from Diane:



Thank you for offering to post Vivie's information on your message board.
Because she is so frightened she is hiding somewhere in that vast forest. It
will take a lot of people watching out for her to find her. I think mountain
bikers have the highest chance of spotting her because you can move so quickly
and cover so much ground.

The goal right now is to discover the area in which she is hiding. Please look
each time you are on Tiger Mtn. It could take several weeks to find her.

Vivie is a small black standard poodle. She weighs 37-40 lbs. Her fur is clipped
very short. She looks like a hunting dog rather than a poodle. The picture I
have included here shows exactly what she looks like. She is wearing a
distinctive silver trimmed collar. Her micro-chip number is on one tag and her
name and my phone number are on the other.

She was last seen Saturday morning bolting down the West Side Road by the gravel
quarry. By now she could be anywhere on Tiger Mtn. So far no one has reported
seeing her. That means that she is hiding. To spot her now will be like spotting
a rabbit or other wild animal. You will most likely just get a glimpse of her
running across a path or through the underbrush. If you spot her, please note
the location as precisely as you can and call me as soon as possible. My number
is 312-330-2751.

Vivie was so frightened Saturday that she is in fight/flight mode. If you see
her it's important not to call out to her, look her directly in the eye, chase
her or attempt to catch her. It will only make it more difficult for the search
and rescue dogs to do their job.

Thanks so much for helping finder her.
 

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Was out there today and kept my eyes open, didn't see her though. Lots of lumber cutting going on that side of the mtn too.
 

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"Vivie was so frightened Saturday that she is in fight/flight mode. If you see
her it's important not to call out to her, look her directly in the eye, chase
her or attempt to catch her. It will only make it more difficult for the search
and rescue dogs to do their job.
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How on earth is anyone going to catch her, then?
 

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Uruk-hai said:
"Vivie was so frightened Saturday that she is in fight/flight mode. If you see
her it's important not to call out to her, look her directly in the eye, chase
her or attempt to catch her. It will only make it more difficult for the search
and rescue dogs to do their job.
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How on earth is anyone going to catch her, then?
I am betting on the bears.
 

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Sad.
 

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Uruk-hai said:
...How on earth is anyone going to catch her, then?
Sometimes they can lure one in by using other dogs and/or food, but it can take a while if the pooch has gone flaky. We just had a situation erupt with some evil excuse for a human being apparently dumping 4 new-to-her siberian sled dogs loose in the Yakima canyon area (FWIW this is NOT standard behavior for dog mushers- she's a total lunatic, and the local mushing community really went into overdrive to get it resolved and get the word out that this person should NEVER be trusted to own a dog). Someone caught one of them after feeding him and working on getting him captured for 2 weeks. By some miracle all were eventually caught and are going to be OK, but not before a couple of them were quilled, one requiring a fair bit of vet attention.

Fortunately this poodle is chipped, so if some random person catches her there's very good odds she'll end up back with the owner.

I've specifically opted to own dogs with tougher than average brain pans, so I traded the possibility of this sort of thing for other hassles. :rolleyes:
 

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trboxman said:
Coyotes more likely than bears.

....and...I can't imagine taking a dog that's that skittish anywhere without having fixed the skittishness first.
My dog is skittish, but he does great out on trails, because he's too nervous to be very far away from me. On the other hand, he's kinda hard to miss, being a Dane that's 34" at the shoulder. :)

And yeah, I don't think it's too likely that dog is going to be found.
 

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trboxman said:
Coyotes more likely than bears.
....and...I can't imagine taking a dog that's that skittish anywhere without having fixed the skittishness first.
In fairness there are quite a few dogs that bolt and kinda freak out for a while. Again, hopefully hunger will drive her back towards humans before a predator picks them off or they get injured.

All that said... a dog's resilience to stress appears to be partially learned behavior and partially genetic.
 

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Wow, bit of a tough crowd here. I hope for the best but given the implied skittishness (really - you can't look the dog in the eye???) this probably won't turn out well; which begs the rhetorical, Why have a dog this skittish, let alone out on the trail?
 

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I don't know if it's the right thing to do, but here's my understanding of the message... the owner is requesting that mt bikers keep an eye out and if they spot her, call the owner. Don't try to approach her or call her name... just note the location and then call the owner ASAP.
 

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mwestra2 said:
I don't know if it's the right thing to do, but here's my understanding of the message... the owner is requesting that mt bikers keep an eye out and if they spot her, call the owner. Don't try to approach her or call her name... just note the location and then call the owner ASAP.
That's what I got out of it, but don't get it. If it were my dog, I would want somebody to do more than just call me. If seen, the dog could be long gone before one would even get through to the owner.

I'm sure she has her reasons for the requests, I don't get them though.
 

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Exactly. Long gone. But maybe there's methods to coaxing skittish dogs out of the woods that aren't readily evident to me.

Anyways, I'll keep an eye out but that's a big place.
 

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Vivie was found!

What are the odds? 1,000 to 1? That's awesome!! Thanks all for keeping an eye out!

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From: Diane
Date: August 3, 2010
To: Julie
Subject: Re: Vivie the Missing Poodle

Good news. My dog was found Sunday evening at the top of Tiger Mountain. She is home now. She is frightfully thin and a little dehydrated but otherwise ok.

Thanks so much for all of your help. If it wasn't for so many bikers and hikers looking out for her she never would have been spotted. Please let everyone on the list know how much Vivie and I appreciate their efforts.

Warm regards,
Diane
 

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LOL, yeah... wasn't expecting that outcome. Good for Diane. Curious to know how she was found though, and by who...
 

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good to know that pup was found. the only time my beagle spooked out on a trail was at tapeworm when we ran into some guys riding around parasite on mini-motos.
 

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kanai said:
good to know that pup was found. the only time my beagle spooked out on a trail was at tapeworm when we ran into some guys riding around parasite on mini-motos.
Yeah, it's always heart warming to hear a "dog makes it home story."

Dogs are funny some times. The only thing I ever saw bother my first golden retriever on the trail was a crushed bald faced hornets nest, one of the big basketball sized paper ones. It was a previous year's nest, so quite defunct, but still she wouldn't go any further down the trail.

She's like, nope, no how, no way, you go that way I'ma stay right here. :D
 
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