Looking for a lighter dual crown fork

Start doing lots of bunny hops, you'll build the muscle tone... besides that, maybe a Boxxer is lighter(?) I'd have to research each fork to know for sure

I don’t have any current experience, the last dual crown i rode was an 888 on a Stinky circa mid to late 00’s. However if i was in your boat i would be looking at the MRP Bartlett and the new Manitou Dorado (may not be fully released yet). I had an MRP Ribbon on my MegaT until converting to mixed wheel setup. Loved the ribbon but it’s definitely not as stiff when railing rocky turns as a 36mm fork. So I’m not sure about Bartlett’s stiffness (i think its also 35) but the dual crown configuration may be plenty for a lighter rider and the damper and ramp up adjustment should be really nice.

As for Dorado, I’ve never run a Manitou fork but 37 mm stanchions and a carbon chasis might be a good fit for you. I’d like to get back on an inverted fork some day. I loved my Shiver single crown prior to the 888 except for its torsional flex so hopefully modern tech has solved that problem well enough. Good luck and let us know how your decision goes.

Yeah, an inverted fork is always at a disadvantage when it comes to torsional flex. Exotic engineering can solve that...but that same engineering can be put towards making a standard fork better/lighter. Was it Formula that was recently prototyping a new enduro DC? Anything coil is going to end up around 8lbs for that kind of fork IMO. But a custom tune might go a long ways with an air spring.

Jayem said:

Yeah, an inverted fork is always at a disadvantage when it comes to torsional flex. Exotic engineering can solve that...but that same engineering can be put towards making a standard fork better/lighter. Was it Formula that was recently prototyping a new enduro DC? Anything coil is going to end up around 8lbs for that kind of fork IMO. But a custom tune might go a long ways with an air spring.

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Yeah that's what I'm leaning toward at this point. I definitely need a dual crown on a GG/DH, but the way i ride I don't need anything huge like a coil fox 40.

stripes said:

Yeah that's what I'm leaning toward at this point. I definitely need a dual crown on a GG/DH, but the way i ride I don't need anything huge like a coil fox 40.

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Avalanche hybrid coil is lighter than full coil...but the oil bath probably makes it as heavy as any other coil DH fork with a closed cartridge.

Looking forward to engineering that makes an inverted fork torsionally stiffer and lighter/ better. I guess manufacturers are not there quite yet but hopefully we are getting closer!

Jayem said:

Yeah, an inverted fork is always at a disadvantage when it comes to torsional flex. Exotic engineering can solve that...but that same engineering can be put towards making a standard fork better/lighter. Was it Formula that was recently prototyping a new enduro DC? Anything coil is going to end up around 8lbs for that kind of fork IMO. But a custom tune might go a long ways with an air spring.

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Monty219 said:

Looking forward to engineering that makes an inverted fork torsionally stiffer and lighter/ better. I guess manufacturers are not there quite yet but hopefully we are getting closer!

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It's an exercise in futility. It basically allows your competitors to undercut you, either in weight, rigidity, price, etc. Almost anything is possible with enough money or exotic engineering, but it's just not the best way to make a fork unless you are significantly more than 8" of travel, where right-side-up fork bushing overlap is insufficient. A lot of smaller makers made inverted forks in the 2000s, because they are much simpler to manufacture. Foes, Mr. Dirt, Risse, Hannebrink, Avalanche, White Brothers and others. They don't require fork lowers castings and can be done by CNC/lathe. About the best implementation I've ever seen was the RS-1, with a one-piece carbon crown/upper assembly As a single crown inverted fork, it's even MORE flexy than a traditional inverted, but using a one-piece CF unit on a dual crown version could show some promise...but again, exotic manufacturing.

look a fox 40 isn't really that heavy ....
so here are the questions -

do you have an injury or anything physical defect ?

Are you old or too young, short ??

If you really want to ride - then do push ups, sit ups, pull ups, back, bench press, curls, lats....or better just hire a trainer and get an exercise plan......I am old and was still riding with a Heavy Emerald up front and still threw that around....You can do it too.

SHIVER ME TIMBERS said:

look a fox 40 isn't really that heavy ....
so here are the questions -

do you have an injury or anything physical defect ?

Are you old or too young, short ??

If you really want to ride - then do push ups, sit ups, pull ups, back, bench press, curls, lats....or better just hire a trainer and get an exercise plan......I am old and was still riding with a Heavy Emerald up front and still threw that around....You can do it too.

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Your questions are irrelevant to me replacing an 8 lb fork with something lighter.

Ahhhh the mtbr of old...

dysfunction said:

Ahhhh the mtbr of old...

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LOL: The fact SMT still suffers from testosterone poisoning and I should too?

He has some good points on some posts, but telling someone who's been weight training for over a year to STFU and push-up is counterproductive.

stripes said:

LOL: The fact SMT still suffers from testosterone poisoning and I should too?

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Nah, but whenever someone comments about the good old days, I chuckle

stripes said:

telling someone who's been weight training for over a year to STFU and push-up is counterproductive.

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if this was true then it wouldn't be as big as a problem, so the questions were relevant because it really shouldn't be that big of a deal unless you have physical defect ( a fox 40 is just under 7 pounds)...but lets not go back and forth here because the end part was a tongue and cheek joke.....

For your riding style ( you said the way you ride you don't need a big fork) ....why don't you put a lighter single crown fork on like the DVO Diamond they weigh like 4.7 pounds or just sell that bike and get an enduro bike .....

SHIVER ME TIMBERS said:

if this was true then it wouldn't be as big as a problem, so the questions were relevant because it really shouldn't be that big of a deal unless you have physical defect ( a fox 40 is just under 7 pounds)...but lets not go back and forth here because the end part was a tongue and cheek joke.....

For your riding style ( you said the way you ride you don't need a big fork) ....why don't you put a lighter single crown fork on like the DVO Diamond they weigh like 4.7 pounds or just sell that bike and get an enduro bike .....

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Because i have an enduro bike. I can handle more laps and not be beat up as much on the DH rig vs the Enduro.

Anyway, i ended up throwing a boxxer on it and it feels good, but it'll feel better when i get an Ohlins damper for it, but that's a different story.

I weighed the fox 40 with the coil, and that sucker is a freaking tank. I don't know what they put in their coils, but man it must be lead.