well since my old bike broke ive thought about it and i think im gonna sell what K2 gives me with the warrenty (if anything) and if they dont give meanything then ill buy a hardtail anyway cuz i would rather get a good hardtail then a POS dual suspension (wish that oreo would realize this). well ive looked at a few and ive come down to the specialized p.2 or maybe the p.3 the rocky mountain flow and something ive never seen anyone riding, the GT moto i really like that oneit seems like a killer deal its only $800. does anyone know anyting about this bike? pros and cons?
looking for a good hardtail
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you get wgat you pay for.
whats that mean? i know that your not gonna get the best stuff for that price but i figure that they are good enough. and ive heard that the drop off isnt the best fork in the world but i thought i would swap it with a sherman or that new stance SC fork
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The P2 is amazing with only a couple upgrades. When you break your fork and get a crash replacement (DJ III) the bike is defately a ton better. The over all preformance of the bike is amazing and the cost can't be beat. The Kona bikes are good but not for the amount of money. I use mine for mainly dirt jumpin and urban stuff. If you slap a bash guard on there you can hop onto really high stuff (i can get up on loading docks), and the bike jumps pretty well. If you like to do northshore style stuff it does that really well too. basically the bike gives ;you alot of confidence to do stuff and is quite forgiving. I would buy another in a heartbeat. Some cons about it are its weight escpecially with the DJIII, but I could care less. Also the stock fork blows ass but its realitively cheap to get a DJIII upgrade after you break it (you will if you ride at all hard).
Some bikes to consider within your given 'range':
-Rocky Mtn Flow (sweet ride, burly, ridden it myself...very nice, can get it with 24" wheels if that's your thing)
-Specialized P2
-Devinci Hucker
-Norco (wide variety of hardtail huckers for many budgets/needs...excellent bikes for the price, but many are sold out because of this...Sasquatch is cheap with decent components)
-Cannondale Chase
You are already talking about swapping forks before buying the bike...try to find a shop that will do it when you buy (usually you can get it done a little cheaper this way), or take that money and put it into a better bike right off the bat. I was looking at getting the norco Torrent, which is really sweet, but is unfortunately spec'd with a JrT...my LBS was willing to swap a Z150 onto it for no additional charge (great group of guys/girls), but alas it is sold out for the year unless you can find an LBS that has it in stock (unlikely if you are in the US). Other than the norcos, I'm pretty biased towards the Flow, but that is maybe just cause I like to support Canadian manufacturers when I can (yes this is hypocritical as I own a specialized xc bike, but you gotta balance support for manufacturers and lbs's with price). It's a quality bike though, and definitely worth a look.
-Rocky Mtn Flow (sweet ride, burly, ridden it myself...very nice, can get it with 24" wheels if that's your thing)
-Specialized P2
-Devinci Hucker
-Norco (wide variety of hardtail huckers for many budgets/needs...excellent bikes for the price, but many are sold out because of this...Sasquatch is cheap with decent components)
-Cannondale Chase
You are already talking about swapping forks before buying the bike...try to find a shop that will do it when you buy (usually you can get it done a little cheaper this way), or take that money and put it into a better bike right off the bat. I was looking at getting the norco Torrent, which is really sweet, but is unfortunately spec'd with a JrT...my LBS was willing to swap a Z150 onto it for no additional charge (great group of guys/girls), but alas it is sold out for the year unless you can find an LBS that has it in stock (unlikely if you are in the US). Other than the norcos, I'm pretty biased towards the Flow, but that is maybe just cause I like to support Canadian manufacturers when I can (yes this is hypocritical as I own a specialized xc bike, but you gotta balance support for manufacturers and lbs's with price). It's a quality bike though, and definitely worth a look.
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the steelhead is definitely nice. You also might want to check out the new Giant STP's. Okay...now don't everyone ***** at me for suggesting this. They're really nice frames, and have decent components for the price. And about the Drop-off comp fork-keep it fro a while. I've got one, and it works fine for me.
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I'd go with a Specialized P.2 It's one of the sickest hardtail's i've ever ridden. I have it set up with 155mm dc drop off triple clamp fork in front and it's o.k. but you could upgrade to something like firefly's or z150's and that would be a nice hardtail. But i've done a 12 foot drop on this and i did have to true the stock ditch witches but everthing else is in perfect working order. But i would also up grade rims because i mean im only 110 pounds (14) so if your heavier than me you might taco those babys. Go with a P.2 it's amazing, Also Specialized warranties the frame for ever.
yeah im problay gonna go with the p.2 cuz its cheap but still good. i read some reviews about the GT and it said that they are not rally made for urban and dirt jumping so i think thats out of the line up and some of the others are a little expensive and since i might not have much money they are out too but if i get the p.2 ill probly try putting the new 66 (if i can aford it seems like it will be expensive) or the new stance flow on it. i might also see if i can get my hands on a mrp bones combo system 2 crank and make the bike all black
does anyone know anything about that combo? like if it will work good together or if that MRP crank is good cuz i havent heard anything about it.. the p.2, MRP bonescombo system2, manitou stance flow... i'd also like some help with other parts that i can put on the p.2 when i get it im probly gonna be doing alot of urban and dirtjumping cuz thats what i have around that city i live in. thatnks for any help you can give
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i want one too
Ive been looking for a good hardtail too. What fork would you guys put on the p2 for urban freeride. Biggest drop I see myself doing for a while is around 10'. Any other crap parts on the p2? Also how would a p2 with a better fork compare to a haro 8.3?
-Andrew
Ive been looking for a good hardtail too. What fork would you guys put on the p2 for urban freeride. Biggest drop I see myself doing for a while is around 10'. Any other crap parts on the p2? Also how would a p2 with a better fork compare to a haro 8.3?
-Andrew
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Personally my friend has a 8.1(same frame as 8.3) and he loves it and i would take it too. It's easier to jump on and it's lighter. But i would have to go with the P.2 even though it's heavier i have no problem with it and i feel more confident. If i were you for urban i would get DJ3's. I've heard there great.
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