Conti Rubber Queen 2.2. Huge grip, size and grin on your face. Only thing that this tyre doesn,t like is mud. It doesn't shed mud well.
Lets talk about AM tires
Building a light AM bike and I was planning on going with Kenda Nevegal lite 2.1s but I'm wondering if there is a lighter, better tire out there. Any suggestions?
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Isn't the Nevegal Lite only a 1.95? The 2.1 is available as a DTC and Stick-E rubber.
Conti Mountain King 2.2 and 2.4 Supersonics are light if you don't have to worry about rocks eating sidewalls.
Conti Mountain King 2.2 and 2.4 Supersonics are light if you don't have to worry about rocks eating sidewalls.
Conti Rubber Queen 2.2, black chilli (large for size) @ 578-579g
Schwalbe Nobby Nic Evolution 2.25 @ 540-560g
You have a large variety of tires to choose from if you're using 2.1 tires for 'AM' riding. Which side of AM do you take to more, the cross country, or the downhill & freeride?
Schwalbe Nobby Nic Evolution 2.25 @ 540-560g
You have a large variety of tires to choose from if you're using 2.1 tires for 'AM' riding. Which side of AM do you take to more, the cross country, or the downhill & freeride?
You have a large variety of tires to choose from if you're using 2.1 tires for 'AM' riding. Which side of AM do you take to more said:The AM riding I will be doing will be rocky, loose and fast.
From reading some of the threads, it sounds like the most popular combo is Conti MK 2.4 Front, RK 2.2 Rear. Does this sound right?
That's the combo I ran all last season and it worked great. Some people have problems with the supersonic sidewalls but I have run my bike through a lot of big rocks with no trouble. I also ran MK 2.4 front and 2.2 rear and I prefer the RK 2.2 in the rear. All the recommendations above are pretty spot on for what you are looking for. Rubber queen, nobby nic, MK,etc. If you get the conti's just make sure you get the larger carcass models, 2.2 RK-Rubber Queen and 2.4 MK. The 2.2 MK is OK but not great.From reading some of the threads, it sounds like the most popular combo is Conti MK 2.4 Front, RK 2.2 Rear. Does this sound right?
Hmmmm
If you're doing loose rocky AM, then I think you're really looking at the wrong tyres if you're considering MK and RK. They will be too thin unless you get UST or protection versions.
I'm assuming you'll be using something like a pedallable 6" travel bike and hit the descents hard. I use the Nobby Nic 2.25 Double Defence for the rear and 2.4 snakeskin for the front if its more loose, or 2.25 NN front and 2.25 RR rear (both double defence) for faster stuff.
The only way you can get away with thin tyres is if the rocks are super smooth, or you ride like that.
If you're doing loose rocky AM, then I think you're really looking at the wrong tyres if you're considering MK and RK. They will be too thin unless you get UST or protection versions.
I'm assuming you'll be using something like a pedallable 6" travel bike and hit the descents hard. I use the Nobby Nic 2.25 Double Defence for the rear and 2.4 snakeskin for the front if its more loose, or 2.25 NN front and 2.25 RR rear (both double defence) for faster stuff.
The only way you can get away with thin tyres is if the rocks are super smooth, or you ride like that.
Alex-
My two main concerns are light weight and superior grip, what do you think would be the best overall front/rear option for me?
My two main concerns are light weight and superior grip, what do you think would be the best overall front/rear option for me?
I've ridden recently in Sydney, which has a lot of loose sharp rocks over sandstone bedrock plus deep sand, drops, roll-offs. The Nobby Nic was THE tyre for those conditions. The knobs tended to bite well through the loose surface, and the stability of wide side knobs helped in the sand. I'm not sure what your specific conditions are, but if they are like what I've described then the NN will do well. The wider 2.25 tyre gripped better than the 2.1.
I rate rubber queen 2.4 highly
Funny you have found this as the NN have paper thin side walls that fold and pinch flat form my experiences in rocky stuff. For a 2.25 they are kinda skinny too.AlexRandall said:I've ridden recently in Sydney, which has a lot of loose sharp rocks over sandstone bedrock plus deep sand, drops, roll-offs. The Nobby Nic was THE tyre for those conditions. The knobs tended to bite well through the loose surface, and the stability of wide side knobs helped in the sand. I'm not sure what your specific conditions are, but if they are like what I've described then the NN will do well. The wider 2.25 tyre gripped better than the 2.1.
I'm talking about the UST version - The 2.25" NN is a nice width and very wide. I didn't particulary enjoy the cornering performance, but they were okay. The rubber wore very quickly and the sidewalls were garbage. I tore holes in mine in not a very long time, but that's the price for light UST tyres.AlexRandall said:I've ridden recently in Sydney, which has a lot of loose sharp rocks over sandstone bedrock plus deep sand, drops, roll-offs. The Nobby Nic was THE tyre for those conditions. The knobs tended to bite well through the loose surface, and the stability of wide side knobs helped in the sand. I'm not sure what your specific conditions are, but if they are like what I've described then the NN will do well. The wider 2.25 tyre gripped better than the 2.1.
I'll second ilostmypassword's recommendation for the Conti Rubber Queen/Trail King. Again discussing the UST version - the weight is acceptable. I run the 2.4" up front and the 2.2" in the rear. I've run 2.4" front and rear and also done the same with the 2.2" version. I do like the 2.4" as a front tyre better than the 2.2" though and the 2.2" better as a rear, possibly because of the differing rubber compounds. Excellent sidewalls on both versions.
For a while, around early to mid last year the NN was the tyre to have around Sydney but it didn't take long for a lot of people to discover the weak sidewalls and use something else.
so.. what I'm hearing is that there is no ultimate solution for what I'm looking for.
I use the Maxxis High roller 2.3 60a Kevlar, and they come in at 664 gram, pretty light imo. And the tire rocks!
helpful chart, thanks
the Schwalbe Rocket Ron looks like a pretty great tire, anyone use it?
I do as a front tire, however, I consider it more as as a XC tire (that's also how I use it). The low weight comes with less durability and higher puncture vulnerability. I would never ride it with tubes, only tubeless with sealant.
It's not that you don't have an ultimate solution, it's that you have several excellent options. You need to examine what kind of riding you'll be doing, take a look at the tires, and the options for the models, and then pick whichever one looks best to you.pbbullpup said:so.. what I'm hearing is that there is no ultimate solution for what I'm looking for.
:thumbsup:bad mechanic said:It's not that you don't have an ultimate solution, it's that you have several excellent options. You need to examine what kind of riding you'll be doing, take a look at the tires, and the options for the models, and then pick whichever one looks best to you.
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