[Daffunda]

Shame... But I guess I understand when the shop owner gripes about how you get people who buy 800 dollar 60% off original MSRP Titus blowout frames from the internet, and brings it over to the LBS to have them assemble it. Especially when the LBS was a Titus dealer.

Kind of a slap in the face, if you look at it from an owner's perspective. Makes the brand look 'cheap.'

"Why would I buy from you for couple % off MSRP when I can get one off the internet with the blowout deal for 60% off original MSRP?" - can't argue with this statement.

I bought three Titus bikes, and is sad, but I guess it is time for me to look elsewhere when I shop for a new steed. The three titus bikes I have is great though....

 

[Blatant]

I guess I don't understand the point of this post. Doesn't the shop still make money on assembly? Yes.

Ultimately, you've been happy with the product, yet you're going to look elsewhere because your shop no longer sells the frame? Is that in protest or something? Logically, it doesn't make a lick of sense to me, but it's your money. Spend it where you like.

 

[terrible]

It is a bummer when you see frames on jenson going for less than dealer cost.

 

[Vespasianus]

I guess I don't understand the point of this post. Doesn't the shop still make money on assembly? Yes.

Ultimately, you've been happy with the product, yet you're going to look elsewhere because your shop no longer sells the frame? Is that in protest or something? Logically, it doesn't make a lick of sense to me, but it's your money. Spend it where you like.

No, I think he is saying that if he buys a titus again, it won't be from that shop, which I guess he likes.

Otherwise, I agree with you...

 

[Daffunda]

I ride for a shop (as in on a team), so it is kinda not good to ride a bike that the shop does not deal with.

 

[Daffunda]

It is a bummer when you see frames on jenson going for less than dealer cost.

that is part of the reason why my shop stopped dealing with Titus.

 

[Flyer]

I believe Titus is moving back towards supporting the LBS and not focusing on big online dealers as much. It is a good move in the right direction but I think their market share has eroded a lot in the past few years. It will take a pretty concerted and focused effort to fix that.

 

[truble911]

It is a bummer when you see frames on jenson going for less than dealer cost.

These are only on older models or closeouts frames, correct?

 

[Vespasianus]

These are only on older models or closeouts frames, correct?

Correct but if a dealer still has stock on hand, it can be really hard for them to sell, if you can buy it significantly cheaper on-line.

One a side note, Jenson has reduced the price on the 2010 EG to $1865.

 

[gmats]

Shame... But I guess I understand when the shop owner gripes about how you get people who buy 800 dollar 60% off original MSRP Titus blowout frames from the internet, and brings it over to the LBS to have them assemble it. Especially when the LBS was a Titus dealer.

Kind of a slap in the face, if you look at it from an owner's perspective. Makes the brand look 'cheap.'

"Why would I buy from you for couple % off MSRP when I can get one off the internet with the blowout deal for 60% off original MSRP?" - can't argue with this statement.

I bought three Titus bikes, and is sad, but I guess it is time for me to look elsewhere when I shop for a new steed. The three titus bikes I have is great though....

LBS have faced this kind of problem for many, many years. My friend owned a shop in the Southern California area. Imagine how high real estate prices must be 2 blocks from the beach. Now compare that to some mail order guy who pretty much doesn't even have a shop (does it out of some warehouse in tim-buk-too). Think about the electric bill and overhead of insurance and staff to keep a shop open even though there isn't anyone coming through? It all comes down to a matter economics.

So are you saying you aren't going to buy Titus from them in the future? I've faced this situation (whether new frame, parts etc) . In the end, I try as much as possible to support my local bike shop because if I don't, they'll close their door and that's not good for either of us. But it's a hard decision sometimes when you're talking about significant amounts of $$.

 

[pbbreath]

I'll almost always buy from my local shop if I can afford it.

The only exception is when my local shops have to order something for me. I'm shopping locally not just for the shop owners but for myself too. I want INSTANT gratification. Not a month from now for more than I would have paid if I'd ordered it myself and gotten it 2 days later.

 

[gmats]

I'll almost always buy from my local shop if I can afford it.

The only exception is when my local shops have to order something for me. I'm shopping locally not just for the shop owners but for myself too. I want INSTANT gratification. Not a month from now for more than I would have paid if I'd ordered it myself and gotten it 2 days later.

Yes, absolutely. Living way out here, the shops aren't real stocked. It's hard to find certain things quite often and if the shop orders it for you, it'll take WEEKS before they get it in.

 

[Daffunda]

So are you saying you aren't going to buy Titus from them in the future? I've faced this situation (whether new frame, parts etc) . In the end, I try as much as possible to support my local bike shop because if I don't, they'll close their door and that's not good for either of us. But it's a hard decision sometimes when you're talking about significant amounts of $$.

No, I am saying that I am always going to buy and support the LBS that stopped dealing with Titus, just not going to buy Titus, since they are not a Titus dealer anymore. (Although they can get any brand of bikes...)

 

[demo_slug]

sorry, I ride bikes for fun. cheap high quality bikes sounds like a good deal to me.

blow them frames out... I can't wait to see more titus buddies on the trail.

 

[Daffunda]

Cheap, High quality..... :lol: Oxymoron anyone?

Start sarcasm:
Ship the jobs overseas baby! Heck, Cannondale is going overseas! Hell we all want cheap and high quality right? People in China are willing to do the same jobs in the US for fraction of the wages. (Cars, Appliance, you name it) We should make everything overseas, why should we pay a hard working American manual laborer $30 bucks an hour to do a job, when someone in India or China will do it for $3?
End sarcasm:

Titus is already doing that with the aluminum frames I thought, so hey, we're going in the right direction. hahahah.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

 

[truble911]

Correct but if a dealer still has stock on hand, it can be really hard for them to sell, if you can buy it significantly cheaper on-line.

One a side note, Jenson has reduced the price on the 2010 EG to $1865.

I did not know Jenson was already discounting 2010 models but in the retail world July represents the start of the end of the summer selling season.

When I built my FTM in March I went through the same thing - working with my LBS or saving a ton of $$ and buying online. I got my frame and most components from Jenson and got my Fox fork from my LBS and had them build the bike. I really did want to give them some of my business but I'm not wealthy enough not to save money where/when I can.

 

[demo_slug]

so you get some free swag from a bike shop, so now your are their shill.

and your rant is weak. and I have now given up on you as a poster. good day and injoy yourself.

Cheap, High quality..... :lol: Oxymoron anyone?
D

 

[yeschiro]

I got what I think is a great deal on my 2010 FTM, and it was comparable, if not better, than the Jenson "blowouts".

The expense of doing business is the way it is. It's good business to lower overhead and be able to pass those savings on to the consumer. BTW, doesn't Jenson have brick & mortar stores out in Cali somwhere? The have just brought there business national...ingenuity baby! More power to them,

I really wanted a Pivot Mach 5, but was detered by the fact that I couldn't find a bargain. The frames are price-fixed and that is lame. No competition makes for lazy service and support if you ask me, and hampers human ingenuity that raises quality and lowers price point. To put in perspective, be glad you live in a country where you can choose to shop for a bargain or purchase "more locally" and support your LBS. Yeah USA!

Just my 2 cents.

 

[zorg]

I got what I think is a great deal on my 2010 FTM, and it was comparable, if not better, than the Jenson "blowouts".

The expense of doing business is the way it is. It's good business to lower overhead and be able to pass those savings on to the consumer. BTW, doesn't Jenson have brick & mortar stores out in Cali somwhere? The have just brought there business national...ingenuity baby! More power to them,

I really wanted a Pivot Mach 5, but was detered by the fact that I couldn't find a bargain. The frames are price-fixed and that is lame. No competition makes for lazy service and support if you ask me, and hampers human ingenuity that raises quality and lowers price point. To put in perspective, be glad you live in a country where you can choose to shop for a bargain or purchase "more locally" and support your LBS. Yeah USA!

Just my 2 cents.

I doubt that Pivot bikes are price fixed, since it's illegal in this country. Manufacturers can not dictate the ultimate resale price, hence the S in MSRP.

 

[TiEndo]

I doubt that Pivot bikes are price fixed, since it's illegal in this country. Manufacturers can not dictate the ultimate resale price, hence the S in MSRP.

Zorg.....you'd be surprised at the number of bike companies and distributers who do not want the store to budge off MSRP.