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Large or X Large?

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Yody

Discussion Starter · Jun 16, 2009

So I'm in the market for a used Mojo Frame (hint hint if anyone has one for sale)

I'm coming off a fairly long top tube 07 Stumpjumper Sworks XL. The thing is too long for me and I want a bike that I can toss/flick around much easier. I'm 6'2" with about a 34" inseam. Right now on the XL I'm running a 75mm stem.

I'm thinking of looking for a Large but the thing is I don't want to run a stem longer than 90mm, I don't like the way it feels with anything longer. I've noticed the Mojo's seem to be sized a bit small. I do want something somewhat drastically smaller but not too small. I do mostly aggressive XC trail riding, some 2-3 foot drops to flat, popping off of lips, rock gardens, etc.

Any advice on which size to go with?

Thanks!

(oh and yeah PM me if ya know of any frames for sale!)

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shif

· #2 · Jun 16, 2009 (Edited)

I'm also 6-2 but with short legs, 32" inseam.
I run a 110mm stem (zero rise) and my XL Mojo seems a little on the short side. I'm using a 25mm set-back seat post too. I wish the thing had a slightly longer top tube, but that's because I'm all torso.

I say go for the XL. And mine is NOT for sale.

-S

edit: Consider the seat post set-back as well as the stem length.

d-bug

· #3 · Jun 16, 2009

Get an XL.

My measurements are nearly identical to yours. I came off a Large 08 Stumpy.
I got the XL Mojo with a 90mm stem and was loving it, but always felt like it might have been too big, I felt a little too stretched out. I was contemplating selling it and getting the L frame. I decided to try out a shorter stem, a 75mm. WOW, what a difference. The bike feels so much better now. It handles the tight stuff way better and feels more stable in the air too. I no longer feel that I need the L.

Now I just want a new frame so I can get one of the new colors.

Yody

Discussion Starter · #4 · Jun 16, 2009

Top Tube Length (Horizontal) 638mm
Top Tube Length (Actual) 618mm

Thats the dimensions on the bike I'm running right now, how does this compare to the mojo?

d-bug

· #5 · Jun 16, 2009

Yody said:
Top Tube Length (Horizontal) 638mm
Top Tube Length (Actual) 618mm

Thats the dimensions on the bike I'm running right now, how does this compare to the mojo?

Look here:
http://www.ibiscycles.com/mountain/mojo/geometry/
effective is 620mm

Yody

Discussion Starter · #6 · Jun 16, 2009

dan51 said:
Look here:
http://www.ibiscycles.com/mountain/mojo/geometry/
effective is 620mm

I saw that, just wasn't sure how effective compared to actual and horizontal?

d-bug

· #7 · Jun 16, 2009

Yody said:
I saw that, just wasn't sure how effective compared to actual and horizontal?

I think of actual as being the measurement where the frame actually exists. On MTBs this will almost always be shorter.
I think of effective as what it would be on an old school road frame where the top tube is parallel to the ground and up high.

Between the Mojo and stumpy, the numbers you'll compare are the 620mm and 638mm.

I could be wrong, and if so someone will point it out

.

Yody

Discussion Starter · #8 · Jun 16, 2009

Thats kinda what I thought as well, hopefully somebody will confirm

grandegrande

· #9 · Jun 16, 2009

I'm 6'1" with a 32" inseam and ride an XL with a 90mm stem. Feels perfect.

hellocook

· #10 · Jun 17, 2009

effective equals horizontal, correct the 620 compare to the 638

Yody

Discussion Starter · #11 · Jun 17, 2009

Okay so the Mojo Xl is actually quite a small bike compared to others on the market, perfect!

Yody

Discussion Starter · #12 · Jun 20, 2009

Decided I'm gonna have to ride both, so who wants to let me ride theirs lol

Still not sure which way I'd like to go. I'm thimking XL with either a 50 or 70mm stem or a large with a 90mm stem. I'm running a Joplin seat dropper so I already have setback post

d-bug

· #13 · Jun 21, 2009

Yody said:
Decided I'm gonna have to ride both, so who wants to let me ride theirs lol

Still not sure which way I'd like to go. I'm thimking XL with either a 50 or 70mm stem or a large with a 90mm stem. I'm running a Joplin seat dropper so I already have setback post

I rode a new Turner 5spot yesterday that was a L with a 90mm. The TT is similar to a L mojo. The bike was also setup exactly how I would if I owned it.
The bike felt super nimble and flickable on the downhills and jumps. Sitting and pedaling was fine, but out of saddle pedaling felt wrong for me. It made me thankful I got the XL. But I could live with the L

ikilledkenny2

· #14 · Jun 22, 2009

Ok I am starting to doubt whether I should get an XL or L. I am 6.1 and I have a 35 inch inseam. I used to ride a large Nomad but I am not sure what to get. Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Edit oh thought I should mention I ride a 60cm road bike.

Yody

Discussion Starter · #15 · Jun 22, 2009

dan51 said:
I rode a new Turner 5spot yesterday that was a L with a 90mm. The TT is similar to a L mojo. The bike was also setup exactly how I would if I owned it.
The bike felt super nimble and flickable on the downhills and jumps. Sitting and pedaling was fine, but out of saddle pedaling felt wrong for me. It made me thankful I got the XL. But I could live with the L

So in what way were you happier about choosing the XL?

I'm looking to sacrifice a little climbing for a more flickable and jumpable bike. How did the 90mm stem feel? Did it make the steering feel twitchy compared to the shorty you're currently running?

The XL mojo is def gonna be smaller than the bike I"m running now and the Large Mojo is just a lil too small looking by the specs but damn I like the shorter wheel base bike for jumps and I like the short top tube for getting my weight back.

Do you think the large with a 80mm stem and a setback seatpost would work for you? Or was the bike just obviously too small?

Yody

Discussion Starter · #16 · Jun 22, 2009

dan51 said:
Get an XL.

My measurements are nearly identical to yours. I came off a Large 08 Stumpy.
I got the XL Mojo with a 90mm stem and was loving it, but always felt like it might have been too big, I felt a little too stretched out. I was contemplating selling it and getting the L frame. I decided to try out a shorter stem, a 75mm. WOW, what a difference. The bike feels so much better now. It handles the tight stuff way better and feels more stable in the air too. I no longer feel that I need the L.

Now I just want a new frame so I can get one of the new colors.

Looked up the specs on a 08 Stumpy size large, and its actually just a hair bigger than the XL mojo, Top Tube Length wise, and wheel base wise. The stumpy Large in 08 is 5mm shorterTT and 5MM shorter Wheelbase so its weird that the mojo woulda felt too big?

d-bug

· #17 · Jun 22, 2009

The Mojo felt great once I built it and moved all the parts from the Stumpy to the Mojo. It started to feel too big once I swapped out the stem and handle bars. Which I could never understand since I went from a black Thomson 90mm to a silver Thomson 90mm. The bars are slightly wider, but I moved the grips in and it still felt wrong. On the Stumpy and initially on the Mojo I had the seat slid all the way forward too. But that was more of a preference thing than a sizing thing. On the Mojo I have since slid the seat back about half way, and put the shorter stem on their and could not be happier. I probably could have used a shorter stem on the Stumpy too.

Why do I prefer the XL? I like to stand and pedal. The part I don't like about the L is the shorter distance from the cranks to the front wheel. I feel that my weight is too far forward when standing, and the rear tire was slipping quite a bit. I'm sure it's something I would get use to though. I only rode it for about 5 miles. A few days on it and I could probably adjust to any differences.

I do find myself consciously shifting my weight forward when going through fast twisty singletrack. Something that I might not have to do on a L.

When demoing the bikes last year, I hated the L because I felt like I was going to go OTB on the downhills. With a properly setup bike that would not have happened, and I probably would have bought a L. But I had the complete opposite experience with a properly setup L. Now I'm starting to talk myself into thinking I should get a L. :madman:

I think I need some more time on the Turner....

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c-wal

· #18 · Jun 22, 2009

dan51 said:
I think I need some more time on the Turner....

How did you like the turner despite the size? The Mojo and DW Spot have similar geo and leverage ratio.

d-bug

· #19 · Jun 22, 2009

c-wal said:
How did you like the turner despite the size? The Mojo and DW Spot have similar geo and leverage ratio.

The shock had about 20 PSI too much in it for me, but I could feel that the suspension performance was similar. Even with too much air it was still smooth.

I would be happy with either manufacturer. I use to think the new Spot was butt ugly, but it looks better in person. Mojo still wins that category by a long shot.

Yody

Discussion Starter · #20 · Jun 22, 2009

Looks like I'm gonna have to ride em both. I have grown accustomed to a long TT short stem. Not sure I wanna run a 100mm stem. Dan I appreciate your insight, thanks for the input!

Hey one other thing, you say you felt like you were going to go OTB on the improperly setup L, how was it setup that made you go with the XL?

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