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I'm getting back into riding and have an old book called the Lane County Mountain Bike Ride Guide, which was published in '92. There are a lot of trails in the book that aren't listed in my more recent guides and maps, so I was wondering if anyone knows if many of these trails are now off limits to mountain bikes or if they are just lesser known trails. I have been looking for new places to ride but I don't want to accidentally ride prohibited trails. Any info appreciated!
 

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I helped write that guide back in the late 80s. That was a loooooong time ago in terms of land management. Which rides in the guide are you thinking about doing? (The ones in the Coburg Hills have been logged over for the most part.)

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How cool that I can post a question about a book and get a reply from one of the authors! Well, I was certainly wondering about those trails in the Coburg Hills, particular Shotgun, as I work for the ODF and have never heard of any riding in that area, only logging, shooting and four-wheeling. I was also wondering about Gold Point, North Shore Trail, Round Mountain, and Dead Mountain, which I used to ride all the time when I lived in Oakridge! I also used to ride some trail just a mile or so outside of the town of Lorane but I'm not sure if that was even a legit trail. Anyway, thanks for any info!
 

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How cool that I can post a question about a book and get a reply from one of the authors! Well, I was certainly wondering about those trails in the Coburg Hills, particular Shotgun, as I work for the ODF and have never heard of any riding in that area, only logging, shooting and four-wheeling. I was also wondering about Gold Point, North Shore Trail, Round Mountain, and Dead Mountain, which I used to ride all the time when I lived in Oakridge! I also used to ride some trail just a mile or so outside of the town of Lorane but I'm not sure if that was even a legit trail. Anyway, thanks for any info!
Shotgun & Round Mtn in the Coburgs have changed a lot. I don't know that you could follow the instructions in the guide; almost certainly not inasmuch as there has been a lot of road building & logging since the guide was published. I have not ridden there in years. Too bad because it used to be a great close-in riding area for Eugeneans. Another change in the Coburgs -- the BLM legitimized off-road motorcycling there so I expect you'd find any remaining trails to be heavily rutted.

North Shore is excellent (very muddy this time of year). I miss Gold Point Trail. I wrote the description for that ride myself. The USFS did a trail closure due to nesting owls or such many, many years ago and it lasted for several years, or so it seemed. I never went back. I think the last time I rode Gold Point was in the early 90s. I do want to go back to check it out one of these days but I'm afraid it might be covered in blowdown.

Can't even remember Dead Mtn... is that the same as Flat Creek? I gotta get my old LC Ride Guide out and leaf through its pages...

There's an excellent ~25 mile network of mountain bike trails called Whypass about 2 miles outside of the town of Lorane. The Disciples of Dirt has contacted the BLM about making the area a designated recreation area.

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Sparticus,
That is the best reply of the week.I have that book too.I enjoyed reading your response.Thanks!
 

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Gold Point is still closed 6 months out of the year, January to July. Dave is probably right that there is probably a lot blowdown. The access roads to the trailheads have been closed. However, the big "Trail closed" signs on the burms are a dead give away that you are on the right track.

With the exception of the Fall Creek trail, all of the trails in the Fall Creek drainage are in serious need of trail maintenance. I keep threatening to make it my pet project. It would be nice to add some more variety to the local fare.
 

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ImaKlyde said:
He lives in our goat shed five days a week.

Brock...
This makes sense...second best reply this week ! Does he pay his rent on time ? Or is it work release ?:D
 

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When did you two become roommates?

Brock must have slipped off into Fantasyland where he imagines that he's Felix and Davey is Oscar. :D
 
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I helped write that guide back in the late 80s.
I've been editing some old MTB videos and photos; it's amazing how far mountain biking has come, yet much of the primary core of it has remained the same. The places we ride seem to have changed more dramatically.
 

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...and Fall Creek Trail is closed to mountain bikes. Always has been.

--Sparty aka Davey

P.S. I think Brock would be Oscar and I'd be Felix. Gotta be honest here...
 

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Sparticus said:
...and Fall Creek Trail is closed to mountain bikes. Always has been.

--Sparty aka Davey

P.S. I think Brock would be Oscar and I'd be Felix. Gotta be honest here...
So, what's the scoop on that one? I always thought it was hiker only trail, but it obviously gets ridden. Does the FS turn a blind eye?
 

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Wait, wait wait...two of us talked with the USFS about Fall Creek at different times last year and both of us, while getting different wording...got the same result: bikes are "allowed" on Fall Creek. Are you saying it's changed, officially, in the last six months?

Brock...
 

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Wait, wait wait...two of us talked with the USFS about Fall Creek at different times last year and both of us, while getting different wording...got the same result: bikes are "allowed" on Fall Creek. Are you saying it's changed, officially, in the last six months?

Brock...
Sometime in the last 12 months, Bob Obermeyer told me that Fall Creek Trail is closed to mountain bikes. I wrote back, confused, asking for clarification. I said, "How long has Fall Creek Trail been closed to bikes?" His one word reply: "Forever."

That's all I know.

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That's wild since when I called they couldn't find anything in their office prohibiting it. Then the other guy called and had the same experience. That was December I think. There's no signing, the USFS latest word is it's OK...Bob's been wrong about a few other things if memory serves.

Brock...
 

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When I worked for the FS, the whole fall creek drainage was treated like the red headed step child that was inherited when they consolidated several ranger districts. It has all kinds of problems stemming from overuse, fire and logging, so I'm guessing that mountain bikes on fall creek trail don't even show up on the radar.
 

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When I worked for the FS, the whole fall creek drainage was treated like the red headed step child that was inherited when they consolidated several ranger districts. It has all kinds of problems stemming from overuse, fire and logging, so I'm guessing that mountain bikes on fall creek trail don't even show up on the radar.
That seems like an accurate statement. I swear some people set up camp there for the whole summer. It turns into hillbilly homeless camp for the summer. I see the Lane County Sheriff's Department up there a lot.

I love riding my road bike up there since I live in Thurston. However, the risk level goes way up during the peak camping season. Above the Fall Creek dam, you have got the speeding tweekers going back and forth to town to re-supply. Below the dam, you have the drunk boaters swerving all over the road in addition to the tweekers.
 

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Sparticus said:
Sometime in the last 12 months, Bob Obermeyer told me that Fall Creek Trail is closed to mountain bikes. I wrote back, confused, asking for clarification. I said, "How long has Fall Creek Trail been closed to bikes?" His one word reply: "Forever."

That's all I know.

--Sparty
Bob Obermeyer was not speaking as an official with the USFS when he made the claim that Fal Creek has always been closed to bikes, and he could never back it up with any documentation to the effect.Bob retired, and has no say in things. Several people have spoken to the USFS personnel that work at the Westfir Ranger station, and they have been told that the trail is officially open to bikes, but "not recommended."

I wonder if it's "not recommended" that we do trailwork on Fall Creek anymore?
 
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