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I've spent a week, three rides, on the Kenda Blue Groove and Nevegal tire combo, both in a 2.35, and they are so impressive I thought I'd post a write-up/review along with a few pics for all of you that might be curious. I'll also do the same with the previous combo I ran, also very impressive, which were the WTB 2.5 Weirwolf in the front and a Geax 2.35 Sturdy in the rear. For now a few pictures will have to suffice seeing as how I've got work to do, I'll edit later with the review.
 

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Blue Groove/Nevegal........they work!!!!!!!

I agree Crash. I've been switching back and forth between the Blue Groove/Nevegal combo (both in 2.1) and the Specialized Enduro Pro 2.2. Each set hooks up extremely well and the Kendas even with the Stick E rubeer probably roll a bit faster. I highly recommend these tires for anyone on loose rock, roots, imbedded rocks and hardpack. Peace................

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Nice, thanks for the sharing the info. Look forward to getting the revised report after more time on them.

Questions – what kind of terrain have you tried them on so far? How does the edge feel when cornering?
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With all the sandstone in Utah, I would imagine you would run the knobs off those things in a hurry. The Sturdys were impressively sturdy imo. Maybe a sticky Kenda up front and a Sturdy in back?
 

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With all the sandstone in Utah, I would imagine you would run the knobs off those things in a hurry. The Sturdys were impressively sturdy imo. Maybe a sticky Kenda up front and a Sturdy in back?
I've been using them in 2.5s for a while. They do wear fast, even on trails that are more dirt than rock. I've been running mine only when the trails are soft/wet. You can climb a hill that's nothing but snot-slick roots with the Stick-E Nevegal as a rear tire. Awesome tires.
 

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Blue Groove/ Nevagal

2.5 Blue Groove on the front and 2.35 Nevagall rear both sticky/kevlar on my RFX for trail rides. Big, sticky and relatively light.

Absolutely awsome combination for hard pack, loose and wet rides. I've ridden nothing but Maxis Mobsters on my front for years but since biggest Mobster single ply they make is a (small) 2.35 so I tried the Blue Groove and love it.

It's a great combo, the Blue Groove loves to lean and the combination is very controllable drifting through the corners, even in the loose stuff.
 

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Sorry for the delay. It's been a couple of crazy days at work. I would've edited my first post with the review but due to the delay it is no longer an option. Anyway, here goes...

REVIEW:

These are the easiest tire I’ve ever mounted. Where the WTB Weirwolf (WW), on a Sun Singletrack, took a lever just to mount and two to remove I was able to mount the Blue Groove (BG) by hand and needed a lever only to start removal. Mounted the tires are well proportioned between width, which according to Shiggy is larger than it’s stated 2.35, and height and the profile has a nice soft radius. Maybe a couple of sidewall pics are in order. As you grab the tire it is immediately evident this isn’t your typical rubber compound as it is tacky and “Stick-E” to the touch.

Because I pinch flat frequently I started with 55 psi, and lowered it by ~2 psi ever mile or so until I got my first pinch flat at ~38 psi, not sure how accurate my gauge is on my Crank Bros pump, so I bumped it back up to 40 psi, this time with my Silca, and have yet to pinch flat including last weekend’s Gooseberry Mesa ride. Though I’m sure it will happen just as long as it’s not with any great regularity. At 40 psi I was able to feel some additional traction qualities that the Nevegal (NV) didn’t express with the higher pressures, as well as the obvious shock absorption associated with lower pressures.

Up front, I like the round profile of the BG particularly on hard pack and slickrock, where the WW has a tendency to crawl and wander when cornered with its tall, square and staggered edge. The BG however didn’t inspire the confidence the Weirwolf does in extremely loose trail conditions due mainly to it’s blocky shallower tread pattern and the lack of the aforementioned pronounced edge, so the two will find near equal time on my Spot. In the rear, the NV provided ample traction particularly on loose climbs with its aggressive tread pattern, typically hooking up where the Sturdy would break loose.

As far as the Stick-E rubber, it’s difficult to know if the additional traction is more a result of the associated coefficient of friction or the tread patter. I assume, at least for my dry trail conditions, the tread has the larger impact. The Stick-E rubber did however provide some interesting characteristics. Where other tires had a tendency to slip, spit off, and stumble on angled and off-cambered rocks, roots and whatnot the Kendas would hold a straight line and crawl up and over stuff, particularly at the lower psi. Overall I liked the characteristics of the Stick-E rubber, but will hold judgment until I can see how many miles to expect out of a set to determine if the additional benefits warrant the expense.

As far as rolling resistance, I’ve watched several threads and posts in Turner and Wheels and Tires discuss this with association to the Stick-E rubber and the aggressive tread pattern of the NV. While I found it to be perceivable on the pavement and also on smoother hard-packed sections of trail, particularly while climbing, it was diminutive enough to allow the positive attributes of both the Stick-E rubber and the NV’s tread pattern to erase any concern.

Overall the Kenda combo is a winner and, unless premature wear is an issue, will find more time on my bike than any other tire combo. Individually, the NV will stay on for the long haul, only coming off for predominately slickrock trails, with the BG resigning duty to the WW for loose trail conditions.
 

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CrashTheDOG said:
Sorry for the delay. It's been a couple of crazy days at work. I would've edited my first post with the review but due to the delay it is no longer an option. Anyway, here goes...

REVIEW:

Because I pinch flat frequently I started with 55 psi, and lowered it by ~2 psi ever mile or so until I got my first pinch flat at ~38 psi, not sure how accurate my gauge is on my Crank Bros pump, so I bumped it back up to 40 psi, this time with my Silca, and have yet to pinch flat including last weekend?s Gooseberry Mesa ride. Though I?m sure it will happen just as long as it?s not with any great regularity. At 40 psi I was able to feel some additional traction qualities that the Nevegal (NV) didn?t express with the higher pressures, as well as the obvious shock absorption associated with lower pressures.

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Hey Crash,

Great in-depth review.....Thanks!

What is your riding weight? It'll help us to guage (no pun intended) pressures regarding our own riding weights.
 

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What is your riding weight?
I don't have any idea how much my hydration pack weighs, but I'm probably right around 215-220 with all my swag on. I imagine if I'm going to be doing predominately fast downhill sections, where pinch flats would be more common, I'll bump the psi up to high 40's, particularly in the rear.
 

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For all of you lamenting over the rapid wear of the Stick-E compound on the Kenda Blue Groove and Nevegal I've got good news! I spoke with the Kenda rep, moody little bastard, at iBike and they're going to be releasing a dual compound version with a sturdier rubber running down the center and Stick-E on the perimeter. Granted the current Stick-E rubber tires are great, and I'll probably keep the BG sticky in the front, but I'm going to be a poor man at the rate I run through the NV's in the rear. He hoped we'd see them at retailers before the end of the year.
 

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nice review

I ride the same combo on my RFX (2.5bg front & 2.35 NV rear) and they've been great this season.

If I got out more then 1-2 times per week I would have run the NV down by now but so far it's held up to a season of shuttling and trail rides, mostly hardpack dirt & limited rock. The center lugs have some serious wear on them and many have large chuncks missing but they offer a level of confidence I had never experienced before on wet stunts/logs.

I run the dh casing on both so can put them down to 20spi for dh stuff and 40psi for trail rides. I just had to get used to the sound the tire makes at such a low pressure (folding rubber.)

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I'm going to try the 2.5 Nevegal up front. I have the 2.35 Nevegal for the rear and it's been great for the slick east coast trails. I don't fear off-camber wet roots anymore. But my 2.5 Weirwolf up front just won't die! I've had it on more than 1 1/2 yrs and I've ridden it everywhere. The knobs are getting really worn down but it's still performs great.

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I've spent a week, three rides, on the Kenda Blue Groove and Nevegal tire combo, both in a 2.35, and they are so impressive I thought I'd post a write-up/review along with a few pics for all of you that might be curious. I'll also do the same with the previous combo I ran, also very impressive, which were the WTB 2.5 Weirwolf in the front and a Geax 2.35 Sturdy in the rear. For now a few pictures will have to suffice seeing as how I've got work to do, I'll edit later with the review.
 

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Yeah, I LOVE these tires! I have a 2.3 BG on the front and a 2.1 Nevegal on the back (gotta run that at higher psi than I did with a 2.3 Nevegal) and I'm still amazed at their cornering, wet roots/logs traction. I have no fear now! :D
 

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CrashTheDOG said:
I've spent a week, three rides, on the Kenda Blue Groove and Nevegal tire combo, both in a 2.35, and they are so impressive I thought I'd post a write-up/review along with a few pics for all of you that might be curious. I'll also do the same with the previous combo I ran, also very impressive, which were the WTB 2.5 Weirwolf in the front and a Geax 2.35 Sturdy in the rear. For now a few pictures will have to suffice seeing as how I've got work to do, I'll edit later with the review.
I have been running the 2.35 Blue Groove and Nevegal also, I prefer the Nevegal up front more than the Groove, going between loose dirt/sandy conditions and lots of rock I prefer the Nev up front. I have been running the Conti in rear (Gravity) just to wear it down and be done with it, dont like that tire. I have run 3 differnt tubes in the Nevegal. A light weight Kenda, a standard in 2.125, and the best so far has been a standard thickness IRC torque tube in a 2.125-2.5 width. It made a good difference in feel, fills the tire out real well without too much stretch. I also have been running between 28-38 psi., seem to be settled on around 32 psi. most of the time and no flats yet. I have yet to find a tire for the front which sticks as well as the Nev does on the reck and rocky trails. It does decent in the soft, not amazing but good enough to not bother with anything else, especially considering how sure footed this tire is on rock and hard dirt.
Since we are on tires, I also have been riding the Intense System 4 tires occassionally. They have a slightly stickier feel than a normal tire, they seem to like only hard pack and rock. I got into some mud out in moab a few weeks back, way up high in the La Sals, and took them off right away for the Nev up front and was much happier.
 

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I thinks Kenda wins the big and light race for sure.
Our "team" has been running the 2.1, 2.35, and 2.5 Nevs, and I've been spending time on the Fire FR and Timberwolf as well.
For the soft wet slippery I think the TW front and Nev rear is a great combo.
The key element in running a sticky rear is cheap.
 

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I have been running the 2.35 Blue Groove and Nevegal also, I prefer the Nevegal up front more than the Groove, going between loose dirt/sandy conditions and lots of rock I prefer the Nev up front.
Thanks for the heads up. 90% of my riding is "going between loose dirt/sandy conditions and lots of rock" and I've never felt like the BG came up short in traction, but I'll have to give the NV a shot and see. Are you running the NV's tread in the front the same direction as your NV in the rear?

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I have run 3 differnt tubes in the Nevegal. A light weight Kenda, a standard in 2.125, and the best so far has been a standard thickness IRC torque tube in a 2.125-2.5 width. It made a good difference in feel, fills the tire out real well without too much stretch. I also have been running between 28-38 psi., seem to be settled on around 32 psi. most of the time and no flats yet.
I'm running a larger diameter WTB 2.4-2.7 tube ~36 psi with a bunch of baby-powder. I find with the standard sized tubes I get mushy sidewalls.
 
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