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Thanks for that. The Niterider looks as though it has a slightly wider beam, but boy the Jet has some extra grunt!! :D

Thanks for posting.

Dave.

EDIT: Ooops, didn't see achesalot's post - great points.
 

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Low_Rider said:
Thanks for that. The Niterider looks as though it has a slightly wider beam, but boy the Jet has some extra grunt!! :D

Thanks for posting.

Dave.

EDIT: Ooops, didn't see achesalot's post - great points.
I think the wider beam is just the fact that the Jet is so bright that you are drawn to the main beam shot, where as the NR is more even, but the outside are is no wider or brighter than the Jets IMO.
 

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hammerheadbikes said:
just got the Jet HID in..
here are the results

light test
As someone else pointed out...... a reason that the Niterider HID is less bright is that the battery is low. You can see the red led is lit.(indicating a low battery condition) on the niterider.

I may be wrong but I think that both the niterider and the Jet HIDs use the Solarc bulb. I can believe that the jet may be a little bit brighter, but not that much.
 

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No real surprise here. Jet makes some absolutely great lights.

I just eBay'd a Topeak Enduro HID (from the MTBR lot, no less, thanks, y'all) and while my 5 year old 20w halogen Jet Phantom can't match up for run times, the new HID is not quite as bright as the old halogen.

More good news, in a phone conversation, Jet told me that they would be going to Lithium-Ion batteries for their entire line. They use all Ni/Metal Hydride now.
 

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just got off the phone with NR tech (not a cs guy, a real tech)

first off, there is no difference in bulb type or power between an older NR HID and the newer HID.

The difference is the newer one has a battery indicator that goes red on the headlamp if low, green is normal. Mine is an older one, thus the red light indicates it's on, nothing else..

an older battery can lose power over time and result in a bit of reduced light output. Perhaps mine has a bit less than when new. But I really haven't used it THAT much as I haven't "had" to do a lot of night riding over the past few years...

We tested it last night against several other NR HIDS and it was agreed the Jet was "better"

we sell all, so, I have no vested interest in this..
I do however really like Jim's company..
 

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royta said:
How do the Light & Motion lights fare against the Jet brand? I'm looking at getting one of the ARC lights, maybe even with the Li-Ion battery.
I have 2 L&M ARC HID lights. They're great. I've haven't seen the Jet HID's, but I'm sure that the Jet lights are good. All of their lights are good.

The Jet HID's have 2 downsides, imo. One is that you have to buy either a helmet light or a handlebar light. They're not interchangeable. That was a big issue for me. I originally wanted my HID on my helmet, then I realized that I preferred a single HID on the bars.

The other downside is if you want to use a lithium battery. Jet doesn't have them, yet.
 

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hammerheadbikes said:
just got the Jet HID in..
here are the results

light test
Who sells the most? I assume it's NiteRider. I have a NiMH NiteRider. After riding for years with their products, I'd call them OK. I'll probably switch for my next light, hopefully not for a number of years, when my kids get out of college!
Jim
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hammerheadbikes said:
just got the Jet HID in..
here are the results

light test
Wow, that seems like quite a difference. I run NR HIDs helmet + bar mount to get the best of both worlds, but would look for an upgrade the next time one of the bulbs blows out again ($100/each).

How much do those Jets go for? The full catalog link on your website is broken...

-Zuke
 

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The Jet HID lights are $400 each.

I'm a bit concerned about the test. I know that Hammerhead was being up front about the tests, but I believe that there are too many discrepancies in the testing, such as:

We do not know which model Niterider was tested. We only know that it was a few years old. That means that the battery was a few years old and probably couldn't deliver as much juice as when new.

The bulb is supposed to be the same in both the Niiterider and the Jet, but without knowing the details, I wonder if there were some differences. Some of the older Niterider HID lights were 12 W (I believe one was 10 watts). The Jet is 13 watts, as is L&M.

I believe that the Jets are probably on par with L&M as far as light output goes. It's hard to tell because only L&M actually rates the light output. All the other manufacturers only tell you the power in watts, which tells you how much power it consumes... not how much light there is.
 

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wow 400$ for a light... time to grab a flashlight and some tape ^^

I have a good "night" vision I used to ride to and from work in the dark for over a year and could make out the terran even in a area with no lights just from the moon, but I want the CARS to see me.

I definitly need some sort of light one of these is not a valid opton for sombody in my budget.
 

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NR batteries may have been discharged.....

hammerheadbikes said:
just got the Jet HID in..
here are the results

light test
On your last pictures, I saw that the nightrider switch had turned red.

Even before the lighted switch turns red, signaling the batteries are about to completely run out of power, these lights lose intensity.

Please run these tests on fully charged NightRider batteries.
 
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